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Heroic AAT Phase 3 - Chirpa EP and Triple Tank Strategy

So I thought I'd share the details of this strategy to land some high damage numbers in arguably the most difficult phase of the AAT raid, p3. Credit to @Maraxus and Trillizo Y Uno for the initial bra...

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The line up is Chirpa (L) EP and 3 tanks. I recommend ST Han, RG and SF. SF can easily be replaced by any other tank for those that don't have him.

Chirpa Lead allows EP 10% TM every time he uses his basic. EP also gains 15% TM per Shocked enemy each time he uses his basic. EP needs to shock all the adds to gain 100% TM per basic hit. At this point, no one else gains turn meter naturally. TM still can be generated by unique abilities:



Ideally, ST Han should have a lot of speed to move before the droids, who move at 232 speed. This gives you a big advantage as EP can shock 2 droids before the enemy even moves (Chirpa RNG is required to call EP on assist). If your ST Han cannot move that fast, this is not a deal breaker, but your ultimate damage will be slightly lower.

General Strategy


  • At the start of the encounter St Han should taunt and ideally grant enough TM to EP and Chirpa.
  • EP should start shocking the adds one by one.
  • Use Chirpa's assist, best case it should call EP for a 2nd shock.
  • Use RG to stun the adds, especially the one with the green triangle.
  • Do not use Chirpa's retribution. This will cause unwanted hits on the boss raising his TM and can also grant Chirpa TM (this is undesired).
  • While the adds still have hp left, unload the off-hits onto them to minimise the B2 counters. DO NOT KILL ANY OF THE ADDS.
  • When ST Han's protection is depleted, get SF to taunt (he will still gain TM from ST Han getting hits). If you go too early, SF could potentially have his taunt fall off near the end of the encounter, since he also gains 10% TM from counters. If you go too late, SF will not get a chance to taunt once TM is frozen.
  • Once all adds are shocked, spam EP's basic on the boss.
  • Do not kill any adds.


    Please see the below video for a sample run. Note the RNG wasn't the greatest here and I also apologize for the choppy animations. Had to run this on power save during a live zerg raid.

    https://youtu.be/uNvRNj6LlEo

    This is an indication of good rng potential with this team:

  • ","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2016-11-06T14:27:27.000-08:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:4051727_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":40098},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"So I thought I'd share the details of this strategy to land some high damage numbers in arguably the most difficult phase of the AAT raid, p3. Credit to @Maraxus and Trillizo Y Uno for the initial brainstorm on this amazing strat.

    The line up is Chirpa (L) EP and 3 tanks. I recommend ST Han, RG and SF. SF can easily be replaced by any other tank for those that don't have him.

    Chirpa Lead allows EP 10% TM every time he uses his basic. EP also gains 15% TM per Shocked enemy each time he uses his basic. EP needs to shock all the adds to gain 100% TM per basic hit. At this point, no one else gains turn meter naturally. TM still can be generated by unique abilities:



    Ideally, ST Han should have a lot of speed to move before the droids, who move at 232 speed. This gives you a big advantage as EP can shock 2 droids before the enemy even moves (Chirpa RNG is required to call EP on assist). If your ST Han cannot move that fast, this is not a deal breaker, but your ultimate damage will be slightly lower.

    General Strategy


  • At the start of the encounter St Han should taunt and ideally grant enough TM to EP and Chirpa.
  • EP should start shocking the adds one by one.
  • Use Chirpa's assist, best case it should call EP for a 2nd shock.
  • Use RG to stun the adds, especially the one with the green triangle.
  • Do not use Chirpa's retribution. This will cause unwanted hits on the boss raising his TM and can also grant Chirpa TM (this is undesired).
  • While the adds still have hp left, unload the off-hits onto them to minimise the B2 counters. DO NOT KILL ANY OF THE ADDS.
  • When ST Han's protection is depleted, get SF to taunt (he will still gain TM from ST Han getting hits). If you go too early, SF could potentially have his taunt fall off near the end of the encounter, since he also gains 10% TM from counters. If you go too late, SF will not get a chance to taunt once TM is frozen.
  • Once all adds are shocked, spam EP's basic on the boss.
  • Do not kill any adds.


    Please see the below video for a sample run. Note the RNG wasn't the greatest here and I also apologize for the choppy animations. Had to run this on power save during a live zerg raid.

    https://youtu.be/uNvRNj6LlEo

    This is an indication of good rng potential with this team:

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    \"Taramel;749045\" wrote:
    \"Josh_K;748975\" wrote:
    \"Taramel;748915\" wrote:
    @Maraxus on a side note is there a reason no one doing Chirpatine is running echo? seems like he would be a nice dmg boost seeing as he has a 30% chance to assist on palps basic.... and it wont cause any extra tm gain or counters.....


    Echos assist still causes 5% tm gain on a low damage ability. You are better off stacking an extra tank here I believe.


    @Josh_K but the 5% will be wasted TM gain as B2 gains 25% per counter so Echo would have to assist him 5 times before he countered 4 times as every 4 counters fills his TM anyway.... Do you get were I'm going with this? (just don't want to explain it if you understand were I'm comming from)


    Yeah I see your point.

    An EP basic will grant B2 5% TM and has a 35% chance for him to gain 25% TM. So average 5 % + 8.75% = 13.75% TM per basic.

    An echo assist will grant B2 5% TM and has a 0% chance for him to gain 25% TM. Echo will assist EP 30% of the time. So for each EP hit with echo in the team, the average TM gain is now, 13.75% + 1.5 % = 15.25% TM, an increase of roughly just over 10%. Echo on average will do about 3.5k damage per assist (216% CD, 50% CC), at 30% roughly add 1k to EP's average damage (EP's average damage is about 10k when maxed).

    So at a very coarse level, the damage you are doing now per TM% gain of the boss is roughly on par, with and without Echo. Now if you factor in the opportunity cost of a full tank's worth of hp to extend the fight as long as possible, triple tank should win by a considerable margin.

    There are 2 main points to maximizing this strategy:


  • Maximise damage dealt per %TM gain of B2. This is purely related to EP's stats/gear/mods.
  • Maximise effective hp of tanks to soak damage and keep the fight going. Increasing gear/stats/mods of tanks will help this one.


    Of course, RNG also plays a big part here. The initial set up also matters quite significantly.
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    \"Taramel;749045\" wrote:
    \"Josh_K;748975\" wrote:
    \"Taramel;748915\" wrote:
    @Maraxus on a side note is there a reason no one doing Chirpatine is running echo? seems like he would be a nice dmg boost seeing as he has a 30% chance to assist on palps basic.... and it wont cause any extra tm gain or counters.....


    Echos assist still causes 5% tm gain on a low damage ability. You are better off stacking an extra tank here I believe.


    @Josh_K but the 5% will be wasted TM gain as B2 gains 25% per counter so Echo would have to assist him 5 times before he countered 4 times as every 4 counters fills his TM anyway.... Do you get were I'm going with this? (just don't want to explain it if you understand were I'm comming from)


    Yeah I see your point.

    An EP basic will grant B2 5% TM and has a 35% chance for him to gain 25% TM. So average 5 % + 8.75% = 13.75% TM per basic.

    An echo assist will grant B2 5% TM and has a 0% chance for him to gain 25% TM. Echo will assist EP 30% of the time. So for each EP hit with echo in the team, the average TM gain is now, 13.75% + 1.5 % = 15.25% TM, an increase of roughly just over 10%. Echo on average will do about 3.5k damage per assist (216% CD, 50% CC), at 30% roughly add 1k to EP's average damage (EP's average damage is about 10k when maxed).

    So at a very coarse level, the damage you are doing now per TM% gain of the boss is roughly on par, with and without Echo. Now if you factor in the opportunity cost of a full tank's worth of hp to extend the fight as long as possible, triple tank should win by a considerable margin.

    There are 2 main points to maximizing this strategy:


  • Maximise damage dealt per %TM gain of B2. This is purely related to EP's stats/gear/mods.
  • Maximise effective hp of tanks to soak damage and keep the fight going. Increasing gear/stats/mods of tanks will help this one.


    Of course, RNG also plays a big part here. The initial set up also matters quite significantly.
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