JKL event eta?

"Kyno;c-2174087" wrote:

"chionophile;c-2174010" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2173990" wrote:

"chionophile;c-2173975" wrote:

"RandomSithLord;c-2173906" wrote:

"Jpfit262;c-2173667" wrote:
I get that, but with him being required for GL that kind of changes things I would think?

Why would it? GLs are permanently available events so there is no reason to tie the required legendary/journey character's cadence to their release date.

I mean, JKL's not going to return early, but I would hardly say that JML is "permanently available" if one of his direct requirements is not permanently available. This was a bit of underhanded play on CG's part, but also not surprising.

I'm so confused, underhanded? Really?

Did you feel that way for R2 > CLS, or BB8 > JTR, or both Revans > Malak, orother times one toon has been required for another and it was not permanently available.

This has been the way of many event and is nothing new, and certainly not underhanded.

I mean, yes, a bit. GLs are the first (and only) events that are permanently available upon release. That's something of a paradigm shift - there's never been an expectation before of always having access to a legendary or hero's journey, or their requirements at times (for the ones you mentioned). But now they've set a precedent - "GLs are always available"... except when they're not.

But they are. They 100% are always available. Someone not qualifying because they dont have the requirements does not change thier availability.

If when any of the other events rolled around and you didnt have the required toons, they were still available, you just may not have qualified.

Yes these events are different, but the way the requirements are laid out is actually very similar to other events and there is nothing underhanded about making them that way. Its actually better they are the same as other events, this is what allows players to plan and work a plan.

This seems very tone deaf.

You must not have the same definition of available as everyone else on the forum.

If a required toon is not farmable because the event to farm the toon is not available then that means players can not make any progress towards unlocking the character. Without unlocking the character they can not enter the GL event that is always available. So in reality the event is not always available because players have to wait for an specific event to return before they can make any progress towards the GL.

I'm sure you understand this yet are being stubborn in admitting these facts and sticking to it is 100% always available. More and more everyday I question if your a real person or crumbs alt.

Also how can players plan and work a plan when CG doesn't communicate when the event returns? Did you forget players were given 0 days notice that JKL event is back. Ridiculous you say this means we can plan for it. U must be trolling

"Jpfit262;c-2174126" wrote:
The only difference is with Rey and Kylo, all legendaries needed were available in the journey guide. So this is a new layer because this is the first GL in which a legendary character is required and not readily available.

But that legendary has been around twice already. If you weren't ready by the second time, you're saying not only would you be ready by the time GL Luke drops, but also have all the other reqs? If someone missed the first two events just because they didn't want JKL, then they'd have to farm for his reqs anyway, even if he was permanently available. So between the requirements for both Lukes, JKL event will come around again anyway.

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2174132" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2174087" wrote:

"chionophile;c-2174010" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2173990" wrote:

"chionophile;c-2173975" wrote:

"RandomSithLord;c-2173906" wrote:

"Jpfit262;c-2173667" wrote:
I get that, but with him being required for GL that kind of changes things I would think?

Why would it? GLs are permanently available events so there is no reason to tie the required legendary/journey character's cadence to their release date.

I mean, JKL's not going to return early, but I would hardly say that JML is "permanently available" if one of his direct requirements is not permanently available. This was a bit of underhanded play on CG's part, but also not surprising.

I'm so confused, underhanded? Really?

Did you feel that way for R2 > CLS, or BB8 > JTR, or both Revans > Malak, orother times one toon has been required for another and it was not permanently available.

This has been the way of many event and is nothing new, and certainly not underhanded.

I mean, yes, a bit. GLs are the first (and only) events that are permanently available upon release. That's something of a paradigm shift - there's never been an expectation before of always having access to a legendary or hero's journey, or their requirements at times (for the ones you mentioned). But now they've set a precedent - "GLs are always available"... except when they're not.

But they are. They 100% are always available. Someone not qualifying because they dont have the requirements does not change thier availability.

If when any of the other events rolled around and you didnt have the required toons, they were still available, you just may not have qualified.

Yes these events are different, but the way the requirements are laid out is actually very similar to other events and there is nothing underhanded about making them that way. Its actually better they are the same as other events, this is what allows players to plan and work a plan.

This seems very tone deaf.

You must not have the same definition of available as everyone else on the forum.

If a required toon is not farmable because the event to farm the toon is not available then that means players can not make any progress towards unlocking the character. Without unlocking the character they can not enter the GL event that is always available. So in reality the event is not always available because players have to wait for an specific event to return before they can make any progress towards the GL.

I'm sure you understand this yet are being stubborn in admitting these facts and sticking to it is 100% always available. More and more everyday I question if your a real person or crumbs alt.

Also how can players plan and work a plan when CG doesn't communicate when the event returns? Did you forget players were given 0 days notice that JKL event is back. Ridiculous you say this means we can plan for it. U must be trolling

People who wanted JKLS got him the second time the event can back. People who didn't get him either the first time or the second didn't really want him - at least not enough to focus on farming for him. They just wished they had. Many people presumed JKLS would be a requirement for GL Luke.

If you are saying that you couldn't plan for an event the second time it can back and are pretending that you had no idea that JKLS might be required fur GL Luke, I think you're the one that's trolling.

"Nikoms565;c-2174183" wrote:

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2174132" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2174087" wrote:

"chionophile;c-2174010" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2173990" wrote:

"chionophile;c-2173975" wrote:

"RandomSithLord;c-2173906" wrote:

"Jpfit262;c-2173667" wrote:
I get that, but with him being required for GL that kind of changes things I would think?

Why would it? GLs are permanently available events so there is no reason to tie the required legendary/journey character's cadence to their release date.

I mean, JKL's not going to return early, but I would hardly say that JML is "permanently available" if one of his direct requirements is not permanently available. This was a bit of underhanded play on CG's part, but also not surprising.

I'm so confused, underhanded? Really?

Did you feel that way for R2 > CLS, or BB8 > JTR, or both Revans > Malak, orother times one toon has been required for another and it was not permanently available.

This has been the way of many event and is nothing new, and certainly not underhanded.

I mean, yes, a bit. GLs are the first (and only) events that are permanently available upon release. That's something of a paradigm shift - there's never been an expectation before of always having access to a legendary or hero's journey, or their requirements at times (for the ones you mentioned). But now they've set a precedent - "GLs are always available"... except when they're not.

But they are. They 100% are always available. Someone not qualifying because they dont have the requirements does not change thier availability.

If when any of the other events rolled around and you didnt have the required toons, they were still available, you just may not have qualified.

Yes these events are different, but the way the requirements are laid out is actually very similar to other events and there is nothing underhanded about making them that way. Its actually better they are the same as other events, this is what allows players to plan and work a plan.

This seems very tone deaf.

You must not have the same definition of available as everyone else on the forum.

If a required toon is not farmable because the event to farm the toon is not available then that means players can not make any progress towards unlocking the character. Without unlocking the character they can not enter the GL event that is always available. So in reality the event is not always available because players have to wait for an specific event to return before they can make any progress towards the GL.

I'm sure you understand this yet are being stubborn in admitting these facts and sticking to it is 100% always available. More and more everyday I question if your a real person or crumbs alt.

Also how can players plan and work a plan when CG doesn't communicate when the event returns? Did you forget players were given 0 days notice that JKL event is back. Ridiculous you say this means we can plan for it. U must be trolling

People who wanted JKLS got him the second time the event can back. People who didn't get him either the first time or the second didn't really want him - at least not enough to focus on farming for him. They just wished they had. Many people presumed JKLS would be a requirement for GL Luke.

If you are saying that you couldn't plan for an event the second time it can back and are pretending that you had no idea that JKLS might be required fur GL Luke, I think you're the one that's trolling.

I'm saying that if a GL has a required character is not currently farmable because the event is not active (JKL) that nullifies the take that the GL is always available, or available to farm after release, basically anyone who doesn't have JKL can't make any progress on the GL until the event for JKL returns.

Saying the GL is always available when you farm the requirements but the requirements are only farmable every few months is very misleading but that's my opinion.

It's like having unlimited internet downloads but only having electricity for one weekend every 3 months. Sure those people have unlimited high speed internet if you want to argue that point.

Also I never said I couldn't plan for JKL, although there is an argument to be made for how much planning was possible with a day's notice on his first release and the limited time between him being confirmed as a requirement and his second release.

I'm sure some people planned for JKL but still didn't get him the by the second time he returned. Me, I'm good, but others like OP asking for a time on his return - I understand where they are coming from and posts that say GL are always available seem a bit trollish since they completely ignore the requirements and focus only on the final GL reward when the requirements to even start farming the GL are not always available.

"Nikoms565;c-2174183" wrote:

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2174132" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2174087" wrote:

"chionophile;c-2174010" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2173990" wrote:

"chionophile;c-2173975" wrote:

"RandomSithLord;c-2173906" wrote:

"Jpfit262;c-2173667" wrote:
I get that, but with him being required for GL that kind of changes things I would think?

Why would it? GLs are permanently available events so there is no reason to tie the required legendary/journey character's cadence to their release date.

I mean, JKL's not going to return early, but I would hardly say that JML is "permanently available" if one of his direct requirements is not permanently available. This was a bit of underhanded play on CG's part, but also not surprising.

I'm so confused, underhanded? Really?

Did you feel that way for R2 > CLS, or BB8 > JTR, or both Revans > Malak, orother times one toon has been required for another and it was not permanently available.

This has been the way of many event and is nothing new, and certainly not underhanded.

I mean, yes, a bit. GLs are the first (and only) events that are permanently available upon release. That's something of a paradigm shift - there's never been an expectation before of always having access to a legendary or hero's journey, or their requirements at times (for the ones you mentioned). But now they've set a precedent - "GLs are always available"... except when they're not.

But they are. They 100% are always available. Someone not qualifying because they dont have the requirements does not change thier availability.

If when any of the other events rolled around and you didnt have the required toons, they were still available, you just may not have qualified.

Yes these events are different, but the way the requirements are laid out is actually very similar to other events and there is nothing underhanded about making them that way. Its actually better they are the same as other events, this is what allows players to plan and work a plan.

This seems very tone deaf.

You must not have the same definition of available as everyone else on the forum.

If a required toon is not farmable because the event to farm the toon is not available then that means players can not make any progress towards unlocking the character. Without unlocking the character they can not enter the GL event that is always available. So in reality the event is not always available because players have to wait for an specific event to return before they can make any progress towards the GL.

I'm sure you understand this yet are being stubborn in admitting these facts and sticking to it is 100% always available. More and more everyday I question if your a real person or crumbs alt.

Also how can players plan and work a plan when CG doesn't communicate when the event returns? Did you forget players were given 0 days notice that JKL event is back. Ridiculous you say this means we can plan for it. U must be trolling

People who wanted JKLS got him the second time the event can back. People who didn't get him either the first time or the second didn't really want him - at least not enough to focus on farming for him. They just wished they had. Many people presumed JKLS would be a requirement for GL Luke.

If you are saying that you couldn't plan for an event the second time it can back and are pretending that you had no idea that JKLS might be required fur GL Luke, I think you're the one that's trolling.

Untrue. I wanted him but couldnt get him in time on try one as i was unwilling to pay to get the characters up and i was on gl rey. (3 day notice on jedi luke isnt enough time)

Time 2 i simply didnt have enough time to finish the farm as i was working it. Im down to 3 chracters left to finish the farm. Have to take northface han, rolo and lando from gear 12 to relic 3.

I want him but i am not gonna pay money for this game any more.

"MaruMaru;c-2174720" wrote:
JKL shouldn't return too early for the 3rd time. Otherwise it undoes all the exclusivity logic built into the game through years. If you are so keen on GL Luke, get everything done and wait for the 3rd time. Almost 23k ppl has jkl now, that's more than people that has either of the first gls.

Im fine waiting... but i dont think a gl should require a character you cant get to whene ever you want.

Makes JML feel rushed to me

"ShaggyB;c-2174717" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2174183" wrote:

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2174132" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2174087" wrote:

"chionophile;c-2174010" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2173990" wrote:

"chionophile;c-2173975" wrote:

"RandomSithLord;c-2173906" wrote:

"Jpfit262;c-2173667" wrote:
I get that, but with him being required for GL that kind of changes things I would think?

Why would it? GLs are permanently available events so there is no reason to tie the required legendary/journey character's cadence to their release date.

I mean, JKL's not going to return early, but I would hardly say that JML is "permanently available" if one of his direct requirements is not permanently available. This was a bit of underhanded play on CG's part, but also not surprising.

I'm so confused, underhanded? Really?

Did you feel that way for R2 > CLS, or BB8 > JTR, or both Revans > Malak, orother times one toon has been required for another and it was not permanently available.

This has been the way of many event and is nothing new, and certainly not underhanded.

I mean, yes, a bit. GLs are the first (and only) events that are permanently available upon release. That's something of a paradigm shift - there's never been an expectation before of always having access to a legendary or hero's journey, or their requirements at times (for the ones you mentioned). But now they've set a precedent - "GLs are always available"... except when they're not.

But they are. They 100% are always available. Someone not qualifying because they dont have the requirements does not change thier availability.

If when any of the other events rolled around and you didnt have the required toons, they were still available, you just may not have qualified.

Yes these events are different, but the way the requirements are laid out is actually very similar to other events and there is nothing underhanded about making them that way. Its actually better they are the same as other events, this is what allows players to plan and work a plan.

This seems very tone deaf.

You must not have the same definition of available as everyone else on the forum.

If a required toon is not farmable because the event to farm the toon is not available then that means players can not make any progress towards unlocking the character. Without unlocking the character they can not enter the GL event that is always available. So in reality the event is not always available because players have to wait for an specific event to return before they can make any progress towards the GL.

I'm sure you understand this yet are being stubborn in admitting these facts and sticking to it is 100% always available. More and more everyday I question if your a real person or crumbs alt.

Also how can players plan and work a plan when CG doesn't communicate when the event returns? Did you forget players were given 0 days notice that JKL event is back. Ridiculous you say this means we can plan for it. U must be trolling

People who wanted JKLS got him the second time the event can back. People who didn't get him either the first time or the second didn't really want him - at least not enough to focus on farming for him. They just wished they had. Many people presumed JKLS would be a requirement for GL Luke.

If you are saying that you couldn't plan for an event the second time it can back and are pretending that you had no idea that JKLS might be required fur GL Luke, I think you're the one that's trolling.

Untrue. I wanted him but couldnt get him in time on try one as i was unwilling to pay to get the characters up and i was on gl rey. (3 day notice on jedi luke isnt enough time)

Time 2 i simply didnt have enough time to finish the farm as i was working it. Im down to 3 chracters left to finish the farm. Have to take northface han, rolo and lando from gear 12 to relic 3.

I want him but i am not gonna pay money for this game any more.

You chose to keep working on GL Rey - and that's fine. But there are many f2p players (myself included) that diverted gear/relics into JKLS requirements as soon as we found them out (during the first run), so that by the 2nd time he dropped we were ready. I actually got mine day 1 of the 2nd time.

I'm not suggesting that all f2p players could have done that - but many that focused as soon as they knew the requirements were able to do so. Obviously, those that continued to pursue GL Rey or SLKR would not have been able to do both.

But the precident of f2p shifting and focusing for the 2nd pass has always been the case in this game. For JKLS, it still was with focus.

"MaruMaru;c-2174734" wrote:

"ShaggyB;c-2174729" wrote:

"MaruMaru;c-2174720" wrote:
JKL shouldn't return too early for the 3rd time. Otherwise it undoes all the exclusivity logic built into the game through years. If you are so keen on GL Luke, get everything done and wait for the 3rd time. Almost 23k ppl has jkl now, that's more than people that has either of the first gls.

Im fine waiting... but i dont think a gl should require a character you cant get to whene ever you want.

Makes JML feel rushed to me

Don't see why it shouldn't need it on principle or how this is related to jml being rushed. In what way it's rushed? CG wanted to capitalise on an existing chase, that's for sure.

Feels like the requiring of jkl is about a year early.... so that makes it feel rushed to me.

Its probably just a bad choice of requirement.... but he should be fully in jiurney guide before being added to a GL requirement list.

Thats how rey and kylo requirements were when it came to journey characters

Anyone who misses a second run event has made the choice to do so. They may have had good reasons to do that, but it's still on them.

"TVF;c-2174890" wrote:
Anyone who misses a second run event has made the choice to do so. They may have had good reasons to do that, but it's still on them.

Typically i would agree with this statement. But not for JKL. With Hermit Yoda and Wampa being G1 token characters unless you had them before the event, even with farming all your g1 tokens into them you would not have these characters when it ran the second time.

I speak from person experience. I had hermit yoda already, but had only 10/330 on wampa when the requirements for JKL were first announced. I have put ever g1 token from LSTB (we do Geo at 16 stars), DSTB (we do Geo at 30 stars) and HSith Raid (I place routinely in top 3) into wampa and I just now on Oct 4th 7 stared Wampa.

So the earliest you could do this is a third run on the normal cycle if you didn't have these two characters (and you do hoth at 40+ stars). If you are doing Geo TB you'll like only get JKL on his 4th return...

This isn't even going into the fact that CG said when hermit yoda and wampa came out that they WOULD NOT BE USED IN Legendary Events...

All this to say, its not crazy for people to ask for the JKL event to run along side the release of JML, it doesn't negatively affect the JKL population. It would just be an example of them giving access to content needed for the event.

Truthfully it doesn't matter to me, i'll end up getting JML around Christmas either way as i round out all the relic requirements needed for him. But CG can earn some community good will by making required events more accessible.