JKL event eta?

"crzydroid;c-2174927" wrote:

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"Jpfit262;c-2173667" wrote:
I get that, but with him being required for GL that kind of changes things I would think?

Why would it? GLs are permanently available events so there is no reason to tie the required legendary/journey character's cadence to their release date.

I mean, JKL's not going to return early, but I would hardly say that JML is "permanently available" if one of his direct requirements is not permanently available. This was a bit of underhanded play on CG's part, but also not surprising.

I'm so confused, underhanded? Really?

Did you feel that way for R2 > CLS, or BB8 > JTR, or both Revans > Malak, orother times one toon has been required for another and it was not permanently available.

This has been the way of many event and is nothing new, and certainly not underhanded.

I mean, yes, a bit. GLs are the first (and only) events that are permanently available upon release. That's something of a paradigm shift - there's never been an expectation before of always having access to a legendary or hero's journey, or their requirements at times (for the ones you mentioned). But now they've set a precedent - "GLs are always available"... except when they're not.

But they are. They 100% are always available. Someone not qualifying because they dont have the requirements does not change thier availability.

If when any of the other events rolled around and you didnt have the required toons, they were still available, you just may not have qualified.

Yes these events are different, but the way the requirements are laid out is actually very similar to other events and there is nothing underhanded about making them that way. Its actually better they are the same as other events, this is what allows players to plan and work a plan.

This seems very tone deaf.

You must not have the same definition of available as everyone else on the forum.

If a required toon is not farmable because the event to farm the toon is not available then that means players can not make any progress towards unlocking the character. Without unlocking the character they can not enter the GL event that is always available. So in reality the event is not always available because players have to wait for an specific event to return before they can make any progress towards the GL.

I'm sure you understand this yet are being stubborn in admitting these facts and sticking to it is 100% always available. More and more everyday I question if your a real person or crumbs alt.

Also how can players plan and work a plan when CG doesn't communicate when the event returns? Did you forget players were given 0 days notice that JKL event is back. Ridiculous you say this means we can plan for it. U must be trolling

People who wanted JKLS got him the second time the event can back. People who didn't get him either the first time or the second didn't really want him - at least not enough to focus on farming for him. They just wished they had. Many people presumed JKLS would be a requirement for GL Luke.

If you are saying that you couldn't plan for an event the second time it can back and are pretending that you had no idea that JKLS might be required fur GL Luke, I think you're the one that's trolling.

Untrue. I wanted him but couldnt get him in time on try one as i was unwilling to pay to get the characters up and i was on gl rey. (3 day notice on jedi luke isnt enough time)

Time 2 i simply didnt have enough time to finish the farm as i was working it. Im down to 3 chracters left to finish the farm. Have to take northface han, rolo and lando from gear 12 to relic 3.

I want him but i am not gonna pay money for this game any more.

You chose to keep working on GL Rey - and that's fine. But there are many f2p players (myself included) that diverted gear/relics into JKLS requirements as soon as we found them out (during the first run), so that by the 2nd time he dropped we were ready. I actually got mine day 1 of the 2nd time.

I'm not suggesting that all f2p players could have done that - but many that focused as soon as they knew the requirements were able to do so. Obviously, those that continued to pursue GL Rey or SLKR would not have been able to do both.

But the precident of f2p shifting and focusing for the 2nd pass has always been the case in this game. For JKLS, it still was with focus.

But its still untrue to say that not getting it second run meant you didnt really want him. I felt i had more time.

Came back quicker than i thought it would therefore i was a bit short still.

That said, time 3 will do it as i nees a few more weeks

By "really want" I meant "put everything else on hold and focus on JKLS requirements" - you admitted to not doing that- that you had more time. And again, that's fine and your choice. But for many f2p players who did stop everything else and focused on JKLS requirements as soon as they were known, they were able to get him the second time around. For a majority of f2p players in that situation it was possible - if they "wanted" him enough to actually change their farming immediately and pivot to JKLS requirements.

Sure its possible, but again saying i really didnt want him because i wasnt ready at round 2 is not the case.

It really depends more heavily on time in game and where your han, rolo and lando were.

Basically put, i really want him but am not cool being told what i have to farm or stop farming to get him.

Semantics. Of course you really WANT him, but you're not wanting to put in the effort required to get him. That's the point. You WANT him to just fall into your lap. But you apparently don't want him badly enough to get him.

It's frustrating in some ways that gone are the days where you could pick up a 7* Legendary with 5 g8-9 toons. But even back then it was always the same issue: choose a path. I didn't unlock Thrawn the first time because I didn't want to divert from working on my p2 HAAT team to work on Phoenix. I got him the second time though.

So it's about choices. Like someone said, I don't think someone that would otherwise be ready for GL Luke is going to be put out by JKL not coming out for three months. It will take ftp AT LEAST that long to get 3PAC and MM. And what else? We haven't even seen the kits yet! So if you are choosing Luke over SEE, it's purely on the basis of liking Luke, which means they probably got JKL out of love for the character anyway.

No i dont want him to fall into my lap. Where are you getting that from.

Im farming him the old fashioned way. You are just stuck on saying because someone didnt stop everything and realign to just jkl that they clearly didnt want him enough.

Thats a massive over simplification of this.

For example in my case i felt id have more time before round 2. Example being if it dropped late this month i think i would have it ready. But perhaps i slow down now knowing i have till likely christmas due to the 3 to 4 month cadence. Example, i went ahead and did raid han before jkl's han now. Im also taking thr characters tht overlap to the jml relic level instead of the jkl level.

Saying i didnt want it enough is simply untrue. If anything i would say i planned poorly... but even that is based on expecting a return later than it happened.

Maybe I missed it in the thread, but I didn't see anyone pointing out that the previous GLs needed cap ships that were not available 100% of the time. Sure, they came back every 2 weeks, but the point is that the current setup is not entirely without precedent. And even if it were, you're still just debating semantics. I hate on CG more than most, I'd wager, but I don't want them to have to run every sentence through a legal department that adds qualifying clause after the other to make sure everything is 100% airtight.

The event is open permanently in the Journey Guide upon release. That's what they meant. I have a hard time believing anyone really read more into their "always available" line than that.

Just, c'mon, let it go.

"crzydroid;c-2175185" wrote:

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"chionophile;c-2173975" wrote:

"RandomSithLord;c-2173906" wrote:

"Jpfit262;c-2173667" wrote:
I get that, but with him being required for GL that kind of changes things I would think?

Why would it? GLs are permanently available events so there is no reason to tie the required legendary/journey character's cadence to their release date.

I mean, JKL's not going to return early, but I would hardly say that JML is "permanently available" if one of his direct requirements is not permanently available. This was a bit of underhanded play on CG's part, but also not surprising.

I'm so confused, underhanded? Really?

Did you feel that way for R2 > CLS, or BB8 > JTR, or both Revans > Malak, orother times one toon has been required for another and it was not permanently available.

This has been the way of many event and is nothing new, and certainly not underhanded.

I mean, yes, a bit. GLs are the first (and only) events that are permanently available upon release. That's something of a paradigm shift - there's never been an expectation before of always having access to a legendary or hero's journey, or their requirements at times (for the ones you mentioned). But now they've set a precedent - "GLs are always available"... except when they're not.

But they are. They 100% are always available. Someone not qualifying because they dont have the requirements does not change thier availability.

If when any of the other events rolled around and you didnt have the required toons, they were still available, you just may not have qualified.

Yes these events are different, but the way the requirements are laid out is actually very similar to other events and there is nothing underhanded about making them that way. Its actually better they are the same as other events, this is what allows players to plan and work a plan.

This seems very tone deaf.

You must not have the same definition of available as everyone else on the forum.

If a required toon is not farmable because the event to farm the toon is not available then that means players can not make any progress towards unlocking the character. Without unlocking the character they can not enter the GL event that is always available. So in reality the event is not always available because players have to wait for an specific event to return before they can make any progress towards the GL.

I'm sure you understand this yet are being stubborn in admitting these facts and sticking to it is 100% always available. More and more everyday I question if your a real person or crumbs alt.

Also how can players plan and work a plan when CG doesn't communicate when the event returns? Did you forget players were given 0 days notice that JKL event is back. Ridiculous you say this means we can plan for it. U must be trolling

People who wanted JKLS got him the second time the event can back. People who didn't get him either the first time or the second didn't really want him - at least not enough to focus on farming for him. They just wished they had. Many people presumed JKLS would be a requirement for GL Luke.

If you are saying that you couldn't plan for an event the second time it can back and are pretending that you had no idea that JKLS might be required fur GL Luke, I think you're the one that's trolling.

Untrue. I wanted him but couldnt get him in time on try one as i was unwilling to pay to get the characters up and i was on gl rey. (3 day notice on jedi luke isnt enough time)

Time 2 i simply didnt have enough time to finish the farm as i was working it. Im down to 3 chracters left to finish the farm. Have to take northface han, rolo and lando from gear 12 to relic 3.

I want him but i am not gonna pay money for this game any more.

You chose to keep working on GL Rey - and that's fine. But there are many f2p players (myself included) that diverted gear/relics into JKLS requirements as soon as we found them out (during the first run), so that by the 2nd time he dropped we were ready. I actually got mine day 1 of the 2nd time.

I'm not suggesting that all f2p players could have done that - but many that focused as soon as they knew the requirements were able to do so. Obviously, those that continued to pursue GL Rey or SLKR would not have been able to do both.

But the precident of f2p shifting and focusing for the 2nd pass has always been the case in this game. For JKLS, it still was with focus.

But its still untrue to say that not getting it second run meant you didnt really want him. I felt i had more time.

Came back quicker than i thought it would therefore i was a bit short still.

That said, time 3 will do it as i nees a few more weeks

By "really want" I meant "put everything else on hold and focus on JKLS requirements" - you admitted to not doing that- that you had more time. And again, that's fine and your choice. But for many f2p players who did stop everything else and focused on JKLS requirements as soon as they were known, they were able to get him the second time around. For a majority of f2p players in that situation it was possible - if they "wanted" him enough to actually change their farming immediately and pivot to JKLS requirements.

Sure its possible, but again saying i really didnt want him because i wasnt ready at round 2 is not the case.

It really depends more heavily on time in game and where your han, rolo and lando were.

Basically put, i really want him but am not cool being told what i have to farm or stop farming to get him.

Semantics. Of course you really WANT him, but you're not wanting to put in the effort required to get him. That's the point. You WANT him to just fall into your lap. But you apparently don't want him badly enough to get him.

It's frustrating in some ways that gone are the days where you could pick up a 7* Legendary with 5 g8-9 toons. But even back then it was always the same issue: choose a path. I didn't unlock Thrawn the first time because I didn't want to divert from working on my p2 HAAT team to work on Phoenix. I got him the second time though.

So it's about choices. Like someone said, I don't think someone that would otherwise be ready for GL Luke is going to be put out by JKL not coming out for three months. It will take ftp AT LEAST that long to get 3PAC and MM. And what else? We haven't even seen the kits yet! So if you are choosing Luke over SEE, it's purely on the basis of liking Luke, which means they probably got JKL out of love for the character anyway.

No i dont want him to fall into my lap. Where are you getting that from.

Im farming him the old fashioned way. You are just stuck on saying because someone didnt stop everything and realign to just jkl that they clearly didnt want him enough.

Thats a massive over simplification of this.

For example in my case i felt id have more time before round 2. Example being if it dropped late this month i think i would have it ready. But perhaps i slow down now knowing i have till likely christmas due to the 3 to 4 month cadence. Example, i went ahead and did raid han before jkl's han now. Im also taking thr characters tht overlap to the jml relic level instead of the jkl level.

Saying i didnt want it enough is simply untrue. If anything i would say i planned poorly... but even that is based on expecting a return later than it happened.

First off, I'm not trying to pick on you Shaggy, just trying to suggest that for f2p players to be certain of getting major characters their second time around, they need to "drop everything and focus". The part about thinking you had more time is precisely the point. Especially since it involved GL Rey - who is always available. The times I have not gotten characters the second time around, it was always because I thought I had more time...and continued finishing else something that could have waited. The times I got characters the first or second time was when I was focused and disciplined.

And no, I wouldn't slow down now. That's also the point - prep at full speed. Once you have everything you need for the "limited time release" - then move on to something else.

Im more disagreeing. I think cg threw us all a bone and dropped jkl early for the second time... which more screwed me than helped me...

How is 83 days early?

It's certainly earlier than the 90-120 days that would be expected.

But that's irrelevant to my point. f2p don't have the luxury to wait or "finish up" what they're working on. As soon as JKLS requirements were known, a f2p player who wanted to be sure to get him the second time around could/should have pivoted to focus on those requirements. Doing so would have made it possible.

i could have Rey already. I still need 27 res hero Finn shards, Need 107 res hero Poe shards (not to mention finish gearing them and then relic them). I stopped everything I was doing after JKL first dropped and switched to JKL bc he's the toon I have wanted since I first started playing the game almost 4 years ago.

Nikoms565 is exactly on point- loads of ppl got him 2nd time around, including ppl who were f2p, bc they dropped everything to get the requirements. It means I sacrificed GET I and II tokens for gear, meaning a long way to go on Gen Sky and Negotiator still. And I still don't have Rey which would benefit me more in arena than my JKL does. But idc bc he's the toon I've wanted since I saw him on the loading screen all those years ago (and he's fantastic).

Could I have waited? To my mind no. Bc his event return date was an unknown it gave me a drive and focus to be ready for him ASAP. Rey I can get whenever I want. There's nothing time-sensitive about it. Whether I'm ready next week or next month, Rey will still be there waiting for me to unlock her. I'm sure you want JKL. But I don't think you wanted him more than me. And that's in part Nikoms565's point. You want him, but not enough to sacrifice your current focus which others did.

"Jpfit262;c-2197871" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-2182368" wrote:
The only way that anyone has any complaints about jkl making jml not available is if they are now ready for jkl a d waiting and also ready for jml otherwise.

Considering with mon monthma and chewpio, you would probably need to spend to be ready by now or have started on relicing rebels and jkl requirements a long time ago.

Most likely if you missed jkl the second time, you also have other jml requirements to work on while you wait. If you were close enough with everything else and decided not to spend it's still on you. It isn't a surprise that jkl would be available for a week and then wait 3 months.

Personally I was still finishing gear on GAS requirements and starring Wampa when ef n they announced the GLs. I figured then that jkl would likely be required. I also figured then, I'd likely need to go for palps since I wouldn't make jkl requirements on time.

It worked out ok and I have no regrets. I still need 2 stars on Piett and g13 and relics on 4 others but I'm making good progress. Had I dropped everything for jml, I'd still be waiting until December and probably longer for the GL.

You make decisions and live with them it's how the game works.

I’m f2p and have been ready and waiting for roughly 2 weeks now.

Which was still a month out from when I posted that. If you were in a hurry, you could spend. Waiting two or three weeks for the new character ftp is pretty common. You should be used to it by now.

But it's December now so he should be due to return sometime this month.

I get that, but with him being required for GL that kind of changes things I would think?

"Jpfit262;c-2173667" wrote:
I get that, but with him being required for GL that kind of changes things I would think?

Nope. JML event is permanently available. You'll just have to wait for JKL to come back around.

Also, we found out he was required the same day his event came back. That's not an accident.

4 months.... max. Likely once a quarter.

Christmas

"UdalCuain;c-2173670" wrote:

"Jpfit262;c-2173667" wrote:
I get that, but with him being required for GL that kind of changes things I would think?

Nope. JML event is permanently available. You'll just have to wait for JKL to come back around.

Also, we found out he was required the same day his event came back. That's not an accident.

That's CG alleviating the panic farm by giving us advance notice. Even if it was a few hours we had advance notice so there was no panic farm.

"Jpfit262;c-2173667" wrote:
I get that, but with him being required for GL that kind of changes things I would think?

Why would it? GLs are permanently available events so there is no reason to tie the required legendary/journey character's cadence to their release date.