Been playing since release. Seen a lot of good, and nearly as much bad, come from this game. I’ve never played a single game every day for 3 1/2 years of my life and that was largely due to the consistent and descriptive updates that the devs provided. But after these past 6 months, it’s obvious that this has become a con relationship between the devs and the players. “Expected” to pay $5000 grand to keep up? Ridiculous. I’ve proudly “only” spent just under $200 on this game and I’ve placed #1 in both arenas plenty of times. I’m still there in ships, but I can’t crack 50 ever since I went F2P over 2 years ago. I get it, the whales need to come first. But it seems like the loyal long-term players who’ve spent a little here or a little there are punished. Why aren’t we adding characters to the GW or GA stores? Having new releases either be legendary or going to hard nodes and then lowering the attempts from 8 to 5 is a joke and a slap in the face to the time invested players. Please stop catering to the whales and place some characters in the stores again. “Make SWGoH F2P Again!”

i feel we should be adding old chars "retired" to the Stores like say Hoth soilder and Lobot and Ururururur i see no problem in letting them go to old stores let users choose if they want shards or shard shop gear.plus it would be fair to have more F2P events like padme is (sort of, maybe) you just had Darth revan AND malak both which were mostly Whales so why not change it up every other major event for this of us that level every toon in the game. even whales need a break every now and then from spending so let some more F2P events i get it you need few major whale events but that doesnt have to be EVERY event.

"Star_Lord1718;d-202659" wrote:Been playing since release. Seen a lot of good, and nearly as much bad, come from this game. I’ve never played a single game every day for 3 1/2 years of my life and that was largely due to the consistent and descriptive updates that the devs provided. But after these past 6 months, it’s obvious that this has become a con relationship between the devs and the players. “Expected” to pay $5000 grand to keep up? Ridiculous. I’ve proudly “only” spent just under $200 on this game and I’ve placed #1 in both arenas plenty of times. I’m still there in ships, but I can’t crack 50 ever since I went F2P over 2 years ago. I get it, the whales need to come first. But it seems like the loyal long-term players who’ve spent a little here or a little there are punished. Why aren’t we adding characters to the GW or GA stores? Having new releases either be legendary or going to hard nodes and then lowering the attempts from 8 to 5 is a joke and a slap in the face to the time invested players. Please stop catering to the whales and place some characters in the stores again. “Make SWGoH F2P Again!” You have no idea how FTP friendly this game is, this post made me physically roll my eyes.

"Palanthian;c-1847987" wrote:"Star_Lord1718;d-202659" wrote:Been playing since release. Seen a lot of good, and nearly as much bad, come from this game. I’ve never played a single game every day for 3 1/2 years of my life and that was largely due to the consistent and descriptive updates that the devs provided. But after these past 6 months, it’s obvious that this has become a con relationship between the devs and the players. “Expected” to pay $5000 grand to keep up? Ridiculous. I’ve proudly “only” spent just under $200 on this game and I’ve placed #1 in both arenas plenty of times. I’m still there in ships, but I can’t crack 50 ever since I went F2P over 2 years ago. I get it, the whales need to come first. But it seems like the loyal long-term players who’ve spent a little here or a little there are punished. Why aren’t we adding characters to the GW or GA stores? Having new releases either be legendary or going to hard nodes and then lowering the attempts from 8 to 5 is a joke and a slap in the face to the time invested players. Please stop catering to the whales and place some characters in the stores again. “Make SWGoH F2P Again!” You have no idea how FTP friendly this game is, this post made me physically roll my eyes.Well, all that op actually asked in the sea of tears, is some new characters in the stores and revert the 8 attempt from 5. I dont think these would break the game really.

OP needs to start playing other mobile games, then he'd truly see how F2P friendly swgoh is compared to a lot of the other gacha games out there.For one, most other gacha don't even let you farm all characters for free, and have some crazy 1% gacha summoning rate for the premium characters. At least swgoh makes all characters F2P farmable eventually.

"Star_Lord1718;d-202659" wrote:. “Expected” to pay $5000 grand to keep up? Ridiculous. It would be ridiculous, but this was also never stated.If your going to base your feedback on a dev statement, you should make sure that you are correctly quoting them.The statement was to catch up, not keep up. This means that they do not expect average players to have to spend this much at all. They also only expect people to spend that if they want to, it's not a necessity.

Make the Game Free-to-Play (Friendlier) Again

12 Replies

glitteroutlaw
6 years ago
i feel we should be adding old chars "retired" to the Stores like say Hoth soilder and Lobot and Ururururur i see no problem in letting them go to old stores let users choose if they want shards or shard shop gear.

plus it would be fair to have more F2P events like padme is (sort of, maybe) you just had Darth revan AND malak both which were mostly Whales so why not change it up every other major event for this of us that level every toon in the game. even whales need a break every now and then from spending so let some more F2P events i get it you need few major whale events but that doesnt have to be EVERY event.
Palanthrax
6 years ago
"Star_Lord1718;d-202659" wrote:
Been playing since release. Seen a lot of good, and nearly as much bad, come from this game. I’ve never played a single game every day for 3 1/2 years of my life and that was largely due to the consistent and descriptive updates that the devs provided. But after these past 6 months, it’s obvious that this has become a con relationship between the devs and the players. “Expected” to pay $5000 grand to keep up? Ridiculous. I’ve proudly “only” spent just under $200 on this game and I’ve placed #1 in both arenas plenty of times. I’m still there in ships, but I can’t crack 50 ever since I went F2P over 2 years ago. I get it, the whales need to come first. But it seems like the loyal long-term players who’ve spent a little here or a little there are punished. Why aren’t we adding characters to the GW or GA stores? Having new releases either be legendary or going to hard nodes and then lowering the attempts from 8 to 5 is a joke and a slap in the face to the time invested players. Please stop catering to the whales and place some characters in the stores again. “Make SWGoH F2P Again!”

You have no idea how FTP friendly this game is, this post made me physically roll my eyes.
Roopehuntr
6 years ago
"Palanthian;c-1847987" wrote:
"Star_Lord1718;d-202659" wrote:
Been playing since release. Seen a lot of good, and nearly as much bad, come from this game. I’ve never played a single game every day for 3 1/2 years of my life and that was largely due to the consistent and descriptive updates that the devs provided. But after these past 6 months, it’s obvious that this has become a con relationship between the devs and the players. “Expected” to pay $5000 grand to keep up? Ridiculous. I’ve proudly “only” spent just under $200 on this game and I’ve placed #1 in both arenas plenty of times. I’m still there in ships, but I can’t crack 50 ever since I went F2P over 2 years ago. I get it, the whales need to come first. But it seems like the loyal long-term players who’ve spent a little here or a little there are punished. Why aren’t we adding characters to the GW or GA stores? Having new releases either be legendary or going to hard nodes and then lowering the attempts from 8 to 5 is a joke and a slap in the face to the time invested players. Please stop catering to the whales and place some characters in the stores again. “Make SWGoH F2P Again!”

You have no idea how FTP friendly this game is, this post made me physically roll my eyes.

Well, all that op actually asked in the sea of tears, is some new characters in the stores and revert the 8 attempt from 5.
I dont think these would break the game really.
449710430e37db5
6 years ago
OP needs to start playing other mobile games, then he'd truly see how F2P friendly swgoh is compared to a lot of the other gacha games out there.

For one, most other gacha don't even let you farm all characters for free, and have some crazy 1% gacha summoning rate for the premium characters. At least swgoh makes all characters F2P farmable eventually.
ryanvegas1989
6 years ago
200 dollars in 3 years is not loyalty bud.
emvedebe
6 years ago
I don't know why everyone seems to think that the change to hardnodes only hurts f2p. p2p players need to spend more actual money to achieve the same results as prior to the change, how is that not hurting them just as much as f2p players, if not more? Is this based on the assumption that p2p players like spending more money or something, it honestly confuses the heck out of me.
Roopehuntr
6 years ago
"leef;c-1848046" wrote:
I don't know why everyone seems to think that the change to hardnodes only hurts f2p. p2p players need to spend more actual money to achieve the same results as prior to the change, how is that not hurting them just as much as f2p players, if not more? Is this based on the assumption that p2p players like spending more money or something, it honestly confuses the heck out of me.

P2p isnt generally used for a '10 dollar pack here and there' type of spenders, but whales.

Whales buy the characters from packs or directly from Shipments. It costs exactly the same for them, before and after the 8 to 5 change.

For the ftp, however, this prolongs the time they need to wait to play with the same toys by like 60%.

Easy to see why this hurts the f2p vs p2p concept.
emvedebe
6 years ago
"Roopehunter;c-1848049" wrote:
"leef;c-1848046" wrote:
I don't know why everyone seems to think that the change to hardnodes only hurts f2p. p2p players need to spend more actual money to achieve the same results as prior to the change, how is that not hurting them just as much as f2p players, if not more? Is this based on the assumption that p2p players like spending more money or something, it honestly confuses the heck out of me.

P2p isnt generally used for a '10 dollar pack here and there' type of spenders, but whales.

Whales buy the characters from packs or directly from Shipments. It costs exactly the same for them, before and after the 8 to 5 change.

For the ftp, however, this prolongs the time they need to wait to play with the same toys by like 60%.

Easy to see why this hurts the f2p vs p2p concept.

So it hurts everyone except those that buy every toon for 300 bucks instead of just farming them, yet only the f2p players seem to complain about it.
RSithLord
6 years ago
Spending $10-50 or even $100 still makes you a P2P, yet at that budget you are likely still only buying refreshes and perhaps gear, but not packs and chromiums.
The node attempt counter change leaves unaffected only those who were not affected by it before anyway. It is almost equally bad for everyone else.
Roopehuntr
6 years ago
"leef;c-1848053" wrote:
"Roopehunter;c-1848049" wrote:
"leef;c-1848046" wrote:
I don't know why everyone seems to think that the change to hardnodes only hurts f2p. p2p players need to spend more actual money to achieve the same results as prior to the change, how is that not hurting them just as much as f2p players, if not more? Is this based on the assumption that p2p players like spending more money or something, it honestly confuses the heck out of me.

P2p isnt generally used for a '10 dollar pack here and there' type of spenders, but whales.

Whales buy the characters from packs or directly from Shipments. It costs exactly the same for them, before and after the 8 to 5 change.

For the ftp, however, this prolongs the time they need to wait to play with the same toys by like 60%.

Easy to see why this hurts the f2p vs p2p concept.

So it hurts everyone except those that buy every toon for 300 bucks instead of just farming them, yet only the f2p players seem to complain about it.

Your first statement is correct, it does hurt light spenders too.
The second, however, im not sure of. I personally, cant recall ANYONE defending the attempt nerf, not even whales/krakens. Light spenders should also revolt, and i think they do.
Its just that CG doesnt care abiut either f2p or light spenders..