MAW- Worlds First RANCOR RAID CHALLENGE complete

"NerfHerder44;c-2202665" wrote:
Can probably add these guys to the list as well: https://swgoh.gg/g/8115/sand-people-are-people-too/

Isn't it a bit elitist to assume a guild is cheating because they have lower gp than yours?

"Bladegunner;c-2202678" wrote:
So how's that happened then?

Hacked APKs. Apparently there are ones out there that stop characters dying or let them do obscene damage. This is an incredible display of arrogance though. How could they possibly think people wouldn't notice? (mainly taking about the near solo pic floating round).

"TVF;c-2202703" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-2202679" wrote:

"NerfHerder44;c-2202665" wrote:
Can probably add these guys to the list as well: https://swgoh.gg/g/8115/sand-people-are-people-too/

Isn't it a bit elitist to assume a guild is cheating because they have lower gp than yours?

A little lower, sure. This is something else.

Other than the one guy doing 144 mil dmg, as far as I have seen it should be theoretically possible for a 200 mil gp guild to legitimately clear the raid. I have no idea if they have the teams to do so or not. So accusing them of cheating based on the pics shown seems a bit wrong to me.

"DarkHelmet1138;c-2202782" wrote:

"TVF;c-2202703" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-2202679" wrote:

"NerfHerder44;c-2202665" wrote:
Can probably add these guys to the list as well: https://swgoh.gg/g/8115/sand-people-are-people-too/

Isn't it a bit elitist to assume a guild is cheating because they have lower gp than yours?

A little lower, sure. This is something else.

Other than the one guy doing 144 mil dmg, as far as I have seen it should be theoretically possible for a 200 mil gp guild to legitimately clear the raid. I have no idea if they have the teams to do so or not. So accusing them of cheating based on the pics shown seems a bit wrong to me.

Theoretically possible for a 200m guild, probably.

For these specific guilds, seems quite unlikely.

"sndnichols;c-2202937" wrote:
Just another example of CG catering to whales. Us regular folks can't even field a team. Still no content for dolphins or FTP. Imagine that

If you can't field a team at this point, you're either a new player or you haven't been paying attention to the direction of the game. End game content is for neither of those categories when it is first released unless you just spend spend spend (like a 6 month old 7M account with 40 zetas spending). This is how every game works. If you bought a WoW expansion a month before a new expansion dropped, would you complain you can't access a new raid for max level players when you're only level 60?

"jrodfantastic;c-2202943" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2202622" wrote:


@CG_Doja_Fett any congratulatory messages for almost worlds first Raid solo?

Hello There, jrod here. Leader of the Vanguard Alliance of which the Sand People guild call home. Some points of clarity: SPAPT is a hyper casual, quiet guild of about 160mil GP, they have a guild discord which hasn’t been used in nearly 6 months, until yesterday. This is guild in which the players log in every few days, play some SW and move on with their lives.

Apollo appeared in this guild in late summer, never joined the discord, never talked in-game, and you’ve all seen his .gg at this point, he was barely ever active. The other players and officers basically had no idea who this player is. Once the Rancor+ score posted, their officers started discussing how it “was odd”, but these are players so disconnected from the “game outside the game” they they really had no idea what had occurred. That’s when the attacks started.

Ultra, Khal, Brownie, and few other players bombarded both the silent guild discord and our alliance server literally DEMANDING answers. Repeatedly using the everyone tags when they could, posting memes and images in every channel they could access, including administration & rules channels. Absolutely relentless messages and pings to players who have nothing to do with the situation. All in a self-proclaimed quest to “report the cheater” appropriately. Confused and overwhelmed, eventually the SP officers gave them what they demanded just to make the barrage of insults and accusations end.

Then what happens? Are those screenshots appropriately reported to LD and Doja? No. They’re publicly posted to the forums, to reddit, to nearly major large scale discord server.

Yes. Apollo cheated. That sucks. He has been removed from the guild and reported. But a much worse travesty is the actions of “reputable players” who literally harassed and interrogated confused and innocent players. You’re adults. Grow up. If you want to track down a cheater, fine. But act responsibly, have some tact, explain what and why you’re doing what you’re doing. You make a lot of other people completely miserable yesterday to the point they’ll likely be quitting the game entirely.

If posting memes and tagging everyone on a completely dead server of 50 people made them all "completely miserable", those people probably need to work on their real life emotional balance.

"DarkHelmet1138;c-2202782" wrote:

"TVF;c-2202703" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-2202679" wrote:

"NerfHerder44;c-2202665" wrote:
Can probably add these guys to the list as well: https://swgoh.gg/g/8115/sand-people-are-people-too/

Isn't it a bit elitist to assume a guild is cheating because they have lower gp than yours?

A little lower, sure. This is something else.

Other than the one guy doing 144 mil dmg, as far as I have seen it should be theoretically possible for a 200 mil gp guild to legitimately clear the raid. I have no idea if they have the teams to do so or not. So accusing them of cheating based on the pics shown seems a bit wrong to me.

Not possible, I’ve spoken to guilds at that level and nope.

"jrodfantastic;c-2202943" wrote:

Are those screenshots appropriately reported to LD and Doja? No.

This part is 100% false.

"Ultra;c-2203026" wrote:

"Sewpot;c-2203013" wrote:
How else did that picture come about? That’s an internal picture and someone posted it. Why I’m not sure. But it wasn’t because they wanted to report cheating that’s for sure. Now it’s backpedal time lol! Too late since nobody in the guild came forward first.

Me, Khal, Brownie went to their server and asked them to post the raid results since we suspected someone in their guild cheated, and we wanted to investigate our assumptions

A few guild members got defensive and didn't want to out their own members, even if they are cheaters, so stuff was said, guild leader (I believe) came in, shared the screenshot of the raid results, promised to get the member kicked and is against cheating and told us he will handle it internally and discuss it with the guild on how to avoid this further

we thanked him and left

Take that information as you will

I did share the image here (obviously) which I guess was a poor judgement on my part

jrod has been starting this drama in other discord servers too, and honestly, its not something i want to entertain, so I haven't given him a direct reply or will be commenting further on this subject

This isn't the thread, and if he wants to continue this we can in any of the discord servers he's going around in and shaming us or handle it privately, like brownie has been trying to do - which he refused

Their server is publicly available to join, so anyone can read up on what we did, and said

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"DarkHelmet1138;c-2202679" wrote:

"NerfHerder44;c-2202665" wrote:
Can probably add these guys to the list as well: https://swgoh.gg/g/8115/sand-people-are-people-too/

Isn't it a bit elitist to assume a guild is cheating because they have lower gp than yours?

Isn't it a bit funny how one of the guild leader's from his alliance actually called him out on cheating in this same exact thread?