Self preservation zeta for sith raid

"DuneFlint;c-1587058" wrote:
So I'll start by admitting i only skimmed the wall of text. But you are arguing over def down and nihl protection regen. But what about the part in JTRs lead that says if you use a special and aren't suffering from any debuffs reduce your ability cds by 1? Wouldn't combat analysis help you trigger that cd reduction?

No, the order of operations is that the cd reduction happens when you press the button to perform the action, while the cleanse only happens after you hit.

"ChristophIV;c-1587104" wrote:
The bit I'm not understand is how its preventing him regaining protection. So a character with defence down crits and cleanses, but shouldn't the protection regain happen after the hit but before the cleanse?

Or is it crits from specials remove defence down so its safe to hit him with a basic?

Personally, my zeta order would be: JTR lead, R2 NC, BB8 RWTP, JTR Virtuous Protector, BB8 Self Presevation or R2 Combat Analysis, then the other one, then JTR Insight. That's if I was to zeta them now with P1 in mind, already had both R2's ages ago.

The protection regen raid effect from Nihilus and the cleanse from R2 both go on the stack because when the hit is made it passes the check for a debuff, but R2's cleanse resolves first for whatever reason so when the raid effect does the secondary check associated with the actual response, the condition that makes it work is no longer true and it fizzles.

At least that's how I'm guessing it works mainly based on my understanding of effect resolution from the game magic the gathering (which has a very similar rule structure to this game and is one of the reasons I started playing it actually).