Ship ability mat mk III system is broken

"Kiritoismyname;c-1425434" wrote:

"R4D4;d-154243" wrote:
There has to be a change to the current system, as Ship mats MK3 are locked behind dark side ships to be collected and their characters maxed out. I didn't want dark side ships, and never cared about geonosian toons, so why am I forced to spent loads of resources and time to get 5 dark side toons I never use, to do T3 Executrix challenge, only so that I can unlock the mats for my light side ships ? I can't upgrade Light side without dark side, it just doesn't make any sense. The mk3 should be available in all levels, just at lower rate or whatever, but not locked out completely.
Or allow the Challenge to be completed with other leaders than just executrix at 5 stars. The only other option at the moment I have is to pay for ship shards to get executrix up to 5 stars, so that I can do the challenge.

"I had to care about 5 light side ships that I DID NOT care about for basic ship currency and now to get chimaera."

See how pointless this argument is?

Your argument doesn't make sense, because you get money on all tiers. That's what I'm postulating for, to unlock ability mk3 on all tiers.

Your argument does not make sense either. "But I don't wanna farm darkside" is your argument. Not a valid argument. Just suck it up and do what needs to be done like the rest of us

"Shenanigans052;c-1425445" wrote:
Your argument does not make sense either. "But I don't wanna farm darkside" is your argument. Not a valid argument. Just suck it up and do what needs to be done like the rest of us

Can you explain how does it not make sense to make mats available in lower quantities on lower tiers, without being completely locked out? This has halted progress on LS ships completely. It's not an event, which can give you certain things only if you have the toons. It's a basic resource, like training droids and ship credits, and shouldn't be locked out. The lower tiers should provide all mats with different quantities, maybe except for T1, to match the toon ability mats.

The dev team have stated that the development of the game is based on a few things, one being the fact that they don't want anyone to be able to develop one side/team/faction to do it all.

They want you to have to develop across the board.

I totally think a collection based game that is based on tradeoffs in time and resource management is better when there are no tradeoffs and everybody is given everything... let's just take this to it's logical conclusion: give us all only 5 toons and 5 ships and let that be the entire game.

I don't know why I'm still surprised at threads where people want an easier path to get good stuff, with no tradeoffs, as if they don't realize it will be easier *for everybody else* and whatever edge was sought will no longer be an edge *because everybody will be doing the exact same thing.*

You need rebels to unlock Emperor Palpatine. Phoenix to unlock Thrawn, Empire to unlock R2D2, First Order to unlock BB8. You need Home One to unlock higher building materials challenges, and Executrix to unlock Ship ability mats. You need a strong light side team to farm Krennic and Shoretrooper from hard nodes. You need a strong dark side team to farm Ghost and Phantom II from hard nodes.

This game pretty much always makes you farm the opposite of what you really want to run to truly maximize them. It makes it a grind. This is a resource management game. That's pretty much the best way to do it. If it was too easy, it would take all the challenge out of it. Not doing so would lessen frustration, but also make it less fun. Things I had to work hard to get are more special and rewarding to have than things that were just handed to me.

"Woodroward;c-1425886" wrote:

"R4D4;c-1425879" wrote:
I'm not asking to give everything to everyone, but to logically spread the materials between the 3 tiers. The 3rd tier gives Zeta and Mat Mk3, but the Mat Mk3 should already be in the Tier 2. Same with the Ability mats for toons, the Mk1-3 are available from Tier 2 onwards with increasing amounts. The tier 3 though is locked behind the challenges or paywall, which makes it unreasonable. By moving the Mats Mk3 to T2, it would allow me to still compete in the arena to certain level, while I keep building the DS squadron to achieve the Tier 3.
The change would be very insignificant to most, but very significant to those who are not the most vivid fans of the ship arena, but want to stay within the first 500 to be able to obtain DS shards at all.

They modeled this challenge after the regular ability mats challenge where only the final tier gives out omega ability mats. Just like the other regular challenges don't give out all types of gear at the lower levels.

The only reason that ability mats are the only one geared this way in ship challenges is because they are the only ship mats that have variation along those lines. It is certainly in keeping with how they set challenges up in general: Have to build healers or supports to do one, tanks to do another, attackers to do yet another... etc.

Fair enough on the design, but there are not enough ships in the game at the moment for this system to be so restrictive.
Either way, I will grind my way through the DS fleet to finally be able to get the mats. Hopefully I'll get there in couple of years.

A couple of years? I started playing nine or ten months ago and I did this a long time ago. It's really not that hard.

"Waqui;c-1432117" wrote:

"R4D4;c-1425452" wrote:
It's a basic resource, like training droids and ship credits, and shouldn't be locked out.

It's not locked out. It's available in the squad arena shop. In fact it's avaiæable there in higher quantities than trough the challenge.

That's prestige, not mk iii ability mats. Those are the purple ship mats.

"Waqui;c-1432130" wrote:
I just came back here to correct my self :—).

You're right.

Nevertheless I can only imagine the post, when this guy finds out, where he gets the zetas for his lightside crew members.

I don't get them at the moment from anywhere but TB, I only do F2P now, been playing for 3+ years already (with 1 year break), but ships were added only a year ago, and I don't enjoy playing them in the current form, so I never invested time to build all ships at once, only the ones I have the toons for.
Mk3 mats can't be obtained anywhere else in the game.