So chaze is just going to be ignored?

Great balanced game, good job....

1 they aren't that OP. 2 it's called retribution. 3 a reciprocate buff would be awesome. Apply all status effects taken back to the attacker.

The response to just get the one of the few counter toons doesn't really fly. By making these Swiss Army knife high powered characters all that gets achieved is less diversity in the game. Less diversity = quicker boredom = quicker game death.

"Schwin;838351" wrote:
The response to just get the one of the few counter toons doesn't really fly. By making these Swiss Army knife high powered characters all that gets achieved is less diversity in the game. Less diversity = quicker boredom = quicker game death.

arena is way more diverse now than it was in the OB dodge meta days. Meta shifts much quicker. all sorts of things are happening now that actually make arena more interresting than it ever was.

Wow. Maybe TWO incredible unique abilities per guy is a bit much, eh? They literally have every possible ability and do them better than those who have ONLY that ability.

"NicolasRage;838282" wrote:

"Wildcats1203;838270" wrote:
I don't see how people can argue that Chaze is balanced after the 3* and 4* Chaze 2v5 video. No two characters should be able to beat an arena team. Five ugnaughts should be able to beat a team of two because it's TWO AGAINST FIVE. If somebody loses to just the two of them using a strong Empire team, they need to be nerfed. You shouldn't need a "counter" just to beat two characters using five characters.

Exactly the original point I was wanting to convey. Anyone that thinks that is balanced is insane and doesn't understand the meaning of balance.

It's NOT balanced. But it's the direction the game is headed. Very powerful synergy. There are other very strong synergies people are still farming up. The game is constantly changing, and Chaze is just the first, and most widely held pair of the new wave of synergy to come.

"TemperTantrumRen;838281" wrote:
For those comparing Chaze to Rey, there is one major difference. Rey couldn't take out fully maxed 7* toons when she was only 4* - Chaze can.

Rey WAS arena viable for elite teams at 4-5* and gear 8-9 amidst max toons at gear 10. I know, because I used her at that level. The first time she one shot killed a tank from full health (40k) I knew she was a bit out of balance, but the game changed around her. Not the other way around. This is going to be the same situation.

"Wildcats1203;838270" wrote:
I don't see how people can argue that Chaze is balanced after the 3* and 4* Chaze 2v5 video. No two characters should be able to beat an arena team. Five ugnaughts should be able to beat a team of two because it's TWO AGAINST FIVE. If somebody loses to just the two of them using a strong Empire team, they need to be nerfed. You shouldn't need a "counter" just to beat two characters using five characters.

2 toons with good synergy should absolutely be able to beat a random assortment of toons that don't fit together being controlled by brainless AI. Especially if it's a bunch of Ugnaughts. LOL

Factions should be POWERFUL together, and random groups will get murdered by them. You should HAVE to have another strong group built around another factions weakness to beat them, and your powerful faction should be just as powerful together as long as they have a glaring weakness that another faction can exploit. Chaze is just a foregleam of where we're headed. They will own some teams, and get owned by others. That's already started, but not enough people have the toons to do that yet.

"Tuftedpaper85;838245" wrote:
This free toon that keeps getting mentioned is probably the hardest in the game to gear up and it'll take a free to play player probably around three months.

... So what? That is absolutely on purpose. Everyone takes time to get. Getting them faster is the advantage some pay for, and that's how the devs make a living. If you want to farm one team quickly and easily and them be dominant forever you're playing the wrong game.

I've been at this a year. I've been +1 in arena, then been left behind by a meta shift, then clawed back up again with a new strategy that took months to implement. Get used to it. "This team needs toons I don't have to beat them," isn't a good argument for nerfing them. Multiple counters exist that not just beat them, but clobber them. Get them. Just know that by spring there will be a new meta to chase. Lucy will keep moving the football every time you get close. (I'm banking on FO and resistance being OP when episode 8 comes out late this year.) And that cycle will continue as long as the devs can massage money out of us. Learn to live with that.

"Geshtianna;838337" wrote:
Many solutions but only applicable to few people. Rebels are the most accessible team, with each character conveniently placed in a different area of the game to farm - the overlap in cantina is neutralised by the distance of the 2 nodes, so by the time one reaches the second node, the first character is already complete. In addition, the most difficult character to farm was given away for free.

Baze, Chirrut, Shoretrooper are completely unfarmable (not available in any game mode). General Kenobi is only accessible to players who already have the luxury of choice when it comes to teambuilding, while the other Jedi share cantina energy. Droids share arena currency and have an important piece stuck behind the slow guild store. Clones share very slow currencies, with only one being reasonably farmable. Resistance do not have enough characters and only 2 reasonably farmable.

Making an empire team requires a full team of rebels, so why not just use the rebels?

Sooooo true

I like having to have more than one team that can handle everything. Having to pick certain characters for certain battles is nice for strategy.

Chaze is definitely strong but also definitely beatable.

"leef;838331" wrote:

"Naw;838313" wrote:

"scuba;835772" wrote:
So just because no one in the past could do it means it shouldn't be done.....

That was weak. You fail at Balancing 101.

If they keep putting out more powerful toons (imbalanced) where does it stop? When the next set of toons come out why would I pay for them unless they were considerably more powerful than Chirrut and Baze?

Again, no two toons should beat five enemies with more stars, even if AI was weak at defense.

where does it stop? never, because players want new shiny things. balance is overrated.

Balancing isn't overrated. It only interferes with making more money.

Soon, episode 8 characters will be the new OP meta. With 3 specials and 3 uniques. Power creep is alright but at least let f2p players some chances to play...