I’m farming the characters that are needed for Jedi Luke, but is really discouraging to know that he works better with other Jedi and only... Except with Revan, the only Jedi that are really good to combine with Luke is GAS, Jedi Knight Anakin, General Kenobi and Hermit Yoda (maybe also Yoda and Ahsoka). But that means that you have to “broke” other important teams, with Padmé, Clones and Jedi Revan, for example, to use Jedi Luke.If I really want to use Luke in Grand Arena or Territory War, than I have to “broke” these other strong teams. This doesn’t make any sense, CG...We all now that Luke in Episode VI is a Rebel to! So why he is not tagged as a Rebel? This should put more possibilities to make teams with him!Maybe a rework for Lando and Leia to combine with Luke, would be also perfect!Frankly, CG...

"HenriqueAA;c-2154261" wrote:Serious that anyone bothers with this??? So, everyone thinks this is OK??They discussed this topic in an earlier QA. Tags (or the lack there of) is a choice that sometimes has to be made in the interest of game balance. -----Luke is a great toon that helps bring together some of the lesser used jedi into a solid team. This is a good thing and doean't require you to break up any teams in a significant way. This also opens up the door to teams later on that may work well as counters for future teams.

The beauty of JKL is that he makes some of the crappy Jedi good. You just have to pair him with 1 super fast Jedi to get the speed equalization up, and then you can use the otherwise completely useless Jedi: Mace, IGD, Kit, JKG, Aayla.

"HenriqueAA;c-2154281" wrote:"StarSon;c-2154273" wrote:The beauty of JKL is that he makes some of the crappy Jedi good. You just have to pair him with 1 super fast Jedi to get the speed equalization up, and then you can use the otherwise completely useless Jedi: Mace, IGD, Kit, JKG, Aayla.So I have to train these bad Jedi if I want to use Luke without breaking other teams... It will be painful to train these bad Jedi. They are very outdated, with low damage and has the same animations. A rework of them could stimulate me...unfortunately, yes you would need to gear other toons, to not break up currently used teams, but I think this problem persists no matter what. In many cases, toons/leaders like this are introduced to bring life to a faction. They dont need a rework to make a solid team, they just needed the right leader.

Define bad jedi. Old Ben is a great overall tank, Aayla is far from bad.

How would the situation be any different if he had the rebel tag? CLS already takes away the best rebels (much like JKR the Jedi) and Mothma has the better Rebel Fighters. You'd have to gear leftover characters all the same, or break up existing teams.

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NyKynoe
5 years ago
"HenriqueAA;c-2154261" wrote:
Serious that anyone bothers with this??? So, everyone thinks this is OK??

They discussed this topic in an earlier QA.

Tags (or the lack there of) is a choice that sometimes has to be made in the interest of game balance.
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Luke is a great toon that helps bring together some of the lesser used jedi into a solid team. This is a good thing and doean't require you to break up any teams in a significant way. This also opens up the door to teams later on that may work well as counters for future teams.
Persimius
Seasoned Scout
5 years ago
The beauty of JKL is that he makes some of the crappy Jedi good. You just have to pair him with 1 super fast Jedi to get the speed equalization up, and then you can use the otherwise completely useless Jedi: Mace, IGD, Kit, JKG, Aayla.
NyKynoe
5 years ago
"HenriqueAA;c-2154281" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2154273" wrote:
The beauty of JKL is that he makes some of the crappy Jedi good. You just have to pair him with 1 super fast Jedi to get the speed equalization up, and then you can use the otherwise completely useless Jedi: Mace, IGD, Kit, JKG, Aayla.

So I have to train these bad Jedi if I want to use Luke without breaking other teams... It will be painful to train these bad Jedi. They are very outdated, with low damage and has the same animations. A rework of them could stimulate me...

unfortunately, yes you would need to gear other toons, to not break up currently used teams, but I think this problem persists no matter what. In many cases, toons/leaders like this are introduced to bring life to a faction. They dont need a rework to make a solid team, they just needed the right leader.
RSithLord
5 years ago
Define bad jedi. Old Ben is a great overall tank, Aayla is far from bad.
RSithLord
5 years ago
How would the situation be any different if he had the rebel tag? CLS already takes away the best rebels (much like JKR the Jedi) and Mothma has the better Rebel Fighters. You'd have to gear leftover characters all the same, or break up existing teams.
NyKynoe
5 years ago
"HenriqueAA;c-2154294" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2154285" wrote:
"HenriqueAA;c-2154281" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2154273" wrote:
The beauty of JKL is that he makes some of the crappy Jedi good. You just have to pair him with 1 super fast Jedi to get the speed equalization up, and then you can use the otherwise completely useless Jedi: Mace, IGD, Kit, JKG, Aayla.

So I have to train these bad Jedi if I want to use Luke without breaking other teams... It will be painful to train these bad Jedi. They are very outdated, with low damage and has the same animations. A rework of them could stimulate me...

unfortunately, yes you would need to gear other toons, to not break up currently used teams, but I think this problem persists no matter what. In many cases, toons/leaders like this are introduced to bring life to a faction. They dont need a rework to make a solid team, they just needed the right leader.

I disagree. In my opinion they are outdated and need more consideration in the game, with better animations and abilities and power increased. For me it’s an absurd to gear up bad toons that are only good because of the leader. But is useless talking... Nothing will change anyway

we dont fight with 1 toon (unless we choose to), so how good/bad a single toon is, is not really relevant if they can comprise a good team.

a lot changes, and things do get reworked, but the point still remains, you can make a solid team without breaking up any existing teams if you so wish.
tvsfrink
5 years ago
I don't understand why OP keeps bringing up old character animations, which have nothing to do with Jedi Luke.
NyKynoe
5 years ago
"D4n040798;c-2154473" wrote:
I still think (no, not think, I KNOW) they’re making a mistake by not adding the rebel tag to Luke from episode VI. In the movie, Luke had perfect interactions with the rebels when he rescued them from Jabba the Hutt, went to Endor with them to look for the shield generator and they all met the ewoks, and he was at the celebration on Endor with the Rebels after the defeat of the Empire. Seriously, how does anyone not pay attention to this? If they’re not going to follow the movie right down to the wire, why add any characters from that movie and leave out some of the important details?

They didnt do it under the guise of canon or in relation to the movie, they specifically didnt due it for in game balance reasons.

Most likely because this is a game, played inside a cantina, that is inside the SW universe and the game play is very outside of canon or any storyline, which is why we can play with Darth Malak or Wat on the same team as Rey.

The use of tags in this fashion allows them to not have to make an even more complicated kit with a lot of caveats just to introduce a character.
Kisakee
5 years ago
"HenriqueAA;c-2154294" wrote:
For me it’s an absurd to gear up bad toons that are only good because of the leader.

This is by far the biggest nonsense. Geonisian Brute Alpha made Geos great, Rey (Jedi Training) made Resistance meta back in the days, and now Mon Mothma and Jedi Knight Luke are doing the same for unused Rebels (that turned into Rebel Fighters) and Jedi. It is always the leader that makes the team viable.
You just don't want to gear up toons that had no reworks or touchups because you want fresh and shiny new toys but this is completely on you. Change your thinking about that and you will have fun with them.
NyKynoe
5 years ago
"Diggeturtle;c-2154735" wrote:
Is there ever going to be a chance that the stores are going to be updated with new toons within the past couple of years instead of when the game first came out?

"Sebek;c-2154736" wrote:
"Diggeturtle;c-2154735" wrote:
Is there ever going to be a chance that the stores are going to be updated with new toons within the past couple of years instead of when the game first came out?

No, But there are Few Good Already for each Store. E.G. Zeb, Boba Fett, Nute Gunray, Paploo, Grevious, Vader

This.

The stores were locked in to allow for a progression, rather than hoarding in wait.

- early players get needed characters
- early/mid players get characters and/or gear (shard shop)
- late game players have a constant source of shard shop currency to keep gear coming in.

if they didn't lock them in, the gear in the shard shop would have always been a "choice", and some would have avoided spending to get shard shop currency due to hoarding for the next character to drop to X store. This change removed that choice and allows for an easier way to plan your resource management.