This is really bothering me...

"crzydroid;c-2175555" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2175539" wrote:

"D4n040798;c-2175247" wrote:
You’re overlooking the fact that he helped save the Rebels from Jabba the Hutt on Tattooine and the fact that he went to Endor with the Rebels in search of the shield generator and the fact that he was partying with the Rebels after the defeat of the Empire, therefore that makes him a Rebel while he was also a Jedi Knight.

ESBROTJ, Yoda: “Not yet. One thing remains. Vader … Vader you must confront Vader. Then, only then, a full Jedi you’ll will you be"

ROTJ, Luke (to Palpatine, after beating Vader) :“Never! I'll Never will I turn to the dark side! You've have failed, Palpatine Your Highness. I am a Jedi, as like my father was before me.”

Luke named himself a jedi at Jabba's palace, sure. Still, he wasn't yet according to his master.

So while I disagree with your statement that gameplay reasons are not good reasons, the lore reason you're claiming is debatable.

Sorry, I don't want to be that person, but....I'm that person.

This person be you should.

My mistake for trusting internet ;) Not ESB/ROTJ though. This one is all mine ^^

Doesn't matter

I can't believe this is still going. All in all, a lot of people would want him to have the rebel tag. I personally was someone who wanted JKL to have the rebel tag. But eventually you have to understand (like I did) that game balance is a bigger weight than lore and it is more important that the game be balance than the game matching the movies.

"D4n040798;c-2176284" wrote:
Game balance shouldn’t be a bigger weight than lore, since that’s where they got the idea for this game in the first place. You ever hear the phrase ‘see the world not as it is, but as it should be’? Well I am looking at the game not as it is now, but as it should be.

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The only thing I'm going to acknowledge is that @D4n040798 has been very persistent in being incorrect so I'll give him an A for effort but an F for accuracy.

"D4n040798;c-2176284" wrote:
Game balance shouldn’t be a bigger weight than lore, since that’s where they got the idea for this game in the first place. You ever hear the phrase ‘see the world not as it is, but as it should be’? Well I am looking at the game not as it is now, but as it should be.

"Kyno;c-2159024" wrote:

"D4n040798;c-2158745" wrote:
I’m not the one who needs common decency, CG needs it more than I do. There is no good balance with Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker if they don’t make him a Rebel just like in the movie, I want to tell them that what they did was a mistake and it really upset many players.

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This is a game about a game, that is played inside a cantina, inside the SW Universe.

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This is not a story game, or any other reason why lore should trump game balance.

If it was it would be very limited or boring as certain Jedi/Sith would be unbeatable by much if not all of the other characters. So literally any SW game out there has always had game balance ahead of lore, even if they handled it differently, like not introducing certain characters.

"D4n040798;c-2176316" wrote:
All I’m saying is they should choose who gets what tags based more on lore and less on game balance if this is a Star Wars game.

We know, you've said it multiple times. And no, they shouldn't.

"kello_511;c-2176329" wrote:
I don’t think his point is that far fetched. Everyone likes to throw the “it’s a holofable simulation” thing out there, but most things in the game are fairly consistent with lore. Especially around faction tags.
They almost always make sense from a lore perspective as well, other than a few edge cases where it’s debatable (Asajj as a sith for example).

It’s relatively rare where a toon doesn’t have tags that would undoubtedly apply from a lore POV.

I get that it is what it is and that game balance is the reason. But I also don’t think that he is that far out in left field to question it.

They are?

You do realize that many of the game modes have us pitting toons against situations they were not even in, or teams of toons that are both LS and DS, or even the same person standing next to themselves......

There are less lore based things in this game than there are lore based, when you really look at it.

You are right, and most here are not giving him any flack for asking, but just as it's not out of left field to ask, it's also not out of left field to accept that it's a game about a game and that in game balance is important and in some cases more important than adding lore.

Note: I said adding lore, because he still follows lore with the tags he has, they just didnt add more that would also fit within lore. They have never broken the following of lore when making any kit, they have limited the view, sure, but they have never in any way put a tag on that didnt make sense from a lore perspective.

"kello_511;c-2176340" wrote:

"suchiuomizu;c-2176337" wrote:

"kello_511;c-2176329" wrote:
I get that it is what it is and that game balance is the reason. But I also don’t think that he is that far out in left field to question it.

The way he is doing it, screaming like a two year old, is though

I agree that it won’t get anywhere, but making the counter-point that “lore means nothing at all in this game” isn’t very accurate either.

It's not that it means nothing, it means that it takes a backseat to game balance. It's still in the car.

I would just like to point out that by JKLS not being a GL, he can be part of a GLs team. That's not a bad thing.