Why does GMYoda only get one g12+ piece of gear?

"JacenRoe;c-1587833" wrote:
Ugh. Complain, complain, complain. Every single character has a mix of gear some of which is completely, and totally useless to them in any way. When did this all of the sudden become a mistake they won't admit to, or a bug, or an evil plot?

The piece in question still gives Yoda speed, health, and armor. And he is doing 70k crits in p1 of the Sith raid under the right conditions as is. Can we save the torches, and pitchforks for actual emergencies?

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And yes. Do people not realize how many times they've put gear on a character that adds potency... but it's an attacker that applies no debuffs?

And in this instance, instead of just giving some generic corporate talk, they actually said this gear is best equipped on other toons because you'll see immaterial gains on GMY. That's a huge step. A developer actually provided guidance on how to best allocate resources without it being shrouded in mystery like in the past. I see this as a win. Yes, the useless gear irks me especially since it will need to be applied to get him to G13 when that''s released, but it's such a non-issue in the large scheme of things.

There is useless gear that is easy to obtain, and then there is g12+ useless gear that can only be obtained in the Heroic Sith raid with the recent changes in rewards. Only GMY has one of those bits of useless gear. There is a bit of a difference...

edit: and no, @JacenRoe , the piece in question does not give him Speed, Health, and Armour. That would be the GOOD piece of gear that he DOES NOT get. the piece in question gives him speed (they all do), Agility (which is not his stat), physical damage (which he does not do), and physical crit rating (which is also useless)

If it was a mk12 Fusion Furnace, there would be no issue, as that piece gives Health, Armour, Resistance and Speed. That is all good.

They always use gear pieces to balance out stats, that seems to be the case here.
Go take a look at Vader or Bigg's gear. Neither of them do special damage but they have like a million pieces of gear that boost special damage.

@JacenRoe I know what you are saying ... AGI increases armour by a little bit. But that is not the point, really. I also know that other toons get mostly-useless gear as well at different levels... that's not the point either, because this is g12 gear. It's different. I personally don't know of any other g12 or g12+ gear that is "wrong" for a toon (although I sure that someone will jump in and correct me).

Simply, the point is this: That physical dmg gear is for physical dmg toons. You are not going to equip it on GMY. So, GMY will only get 1 piece of g12+ gear. The "opportunity cost" of equipping it on GMY is too high - you lose the benefit of it on a physical dmg toon.

Lets look at the major special dmg toons in the game: Palp, Traya, Talzin, Krennic, DN, Thrawn, and GMY.

The g12+ gear that they get are these:
a) Data Pad (40 int, 3050 health, 50 special crit, 60 resistance penetration, 6 speed)
b) Key Pad (45 agility, 2000 health, 60 armour, 60 resistance, 6 speed)
c) Furnace (6500 health, 30 armour, 30 resistance, 6 speed)

Palp gets (a) and (b)
Traya gets (a) and (b)
Talzin gets (a) and (c)
Krennic gets (a) and (c)
DN gets (a) and (b)
Thrawn gets (a) and (b)
GMY gets (a) and .... a Holo Lens (40 agility, 2000 health, 100 physical dmg, 85 physical crit, 6 speed)

@CG_SBCrumb That HAS to be a mistake. I don't care what they say about it being on purpose... If they don't want to increase GMY's dmg any higher, then give him a (b) or (c). But if they don't want to increase his health too much, give him a (b). The Key Pad has the same health and speed as the Holo Lens that they gave him, but some armour and resistance, rather than the physical dmg stats. In that case you would actually consider equipping the item on GMY. The Key Pad must be what they intended.

Moreover, GMY's resistance is lower than every other toon mentioned above, and his armour is at around the average of those above. The Key Pad is not going to make him overpowered by any means ... he will STILL have less resistance than all of those above toons, even with the extra +60!

It is a mistake, and an easy one to fix. I continue to be astounded at how CG refuses to acknowledge small mistakes like this and fix them.

And to the people who read my posts like a "boo hoo! waa waa waa! I want GMY to be great!" That's not what this is about - it's not a whine or a complaint, I am trying to point out that I believe that a mistake was made, that is easy to fix, and I am asking them to fix it. (While I admit that my first post came across as a bit of a whine).

The whole issue is minor, I agree, and I'm not going to devote my life into starting a crusade against it, but the issue remains, and their explanation does not hold water.

"Caiaphas;c-1588696" wrote:

"JacenRoe;c-1588673" wrote:
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The point is that he's already doing 70k attacks (we have video evidence on YouTube), so it's possible that this was done on purpose since they figured that was high enough. And after a dev says, 'no it's not changing', then we can all agree it's dumb. But it's dumb, and it's staying as is. So please continue to insist that it must be an accident.

^ This is "just noise". Nobody is asking for him to have more damage.

Considering that your mind is made up, I shouldn't even bother, but I will anyway.

He is doing that damage because of the buffs. He shares those buffs with his team. Palp, Traya, Talzin, etc. etc. can all get the same buffs. But they don't get worthless gear, do they?

Also, it is not about adding more damage to him. It's about removing the physical damage gear, which other toons need, and adding a Key Pad or Furnace instead ... neither of which add damage.

Are you just arguing for the sake of it? You agree that it is wrong, so why are you fighting back so much? What do you think the major issue is with replacing the "wrong" gear with a Key Pad (the Furnace might give him too much overall health)? Is there even a minor issue with that? Or any issue at all? Or is sense just noise to you?

My point... is to ask is it possible... that his stats... are exactly as they were intended to be... especially since a dev said it won't change?

And seeing as every single toon in the entire game has multiple pieces that don't have a single useful stat on them whatsoever... is this a giant surprise?

And finally as for giving him a different gear piece that gives more survivability... is it possible... that they figured giving himself, and an entire team, foresight, tenacity up, and bonus protection, and giving himself foresight on a basic was plenty of survivability... especially on a character that arguably has more self TM manipulation than any other character in the game now, and can now do absurdly high damage? Is it possible that they purposely gave him a 'useless' gear piece that ONLY gives him 6 speed, 2,000 health, and a bit of armor because they wanted him squishy in light of all the new abilities he was getting? And is it then at least possible that they did exactly what they have done with every toon in the game hundreds of times over, and gave him a filler piece instead of going back and reworking his entire gear table to get those stats exactly where there are?

I can, and have acknowledged the system is dumb. But there is no perfect system, and there are plenty of logical reason this is not a giant mistake. And you already have an answer from a dev. So at this point if you can't at least acknowledge any of the above might have some validity then you're not seeing the other side, and are purposely being obtuse, and I'll argue just for sport until I get bored.

So can you admit any of that, and that its really not a big deal, or are you going to continue to gripe about it, and insist on it being an accident even after you already got an answer?

"JacenRoe;c-1588733" wrote:

"Caiaphas;c-1588696" wrote:

"JacenRoe;c-1588673" wrote:
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The point is that he's already doing 70k attacks (we have video evidence on YouTube), so it's possible that this was done on purpose since they figured that was high enough. And after a dev says, 'no it's not changing', then we can all agree it's dumb. But it's dumb, and it's staying as is. So please continue to insist that it must be an accident.

^ This is "just noise". Nobody is asking for him to have more damage.

Considering that your mind is made up, I shouldn't even bother, but I will anyway.

He is doing that damage because of the buffs. He shares those buffs with his team. Palp, Traya, Talzin, etc. etc. can all get the same buffs. But they don't get worthless gear, do they?

Also, it is not about adding more damage to him. It's about removing the physical damage gear, which other toons need, and adding a Key Pad or Furnace instead ... neither of which add damage.

Are you just arguing for the sake of it? You agree that it is wrong, so why are you fighting back so much? What do you think the major issue is with replacing the "wrong" gear with a Key Pad (the Furnace might give him too much overall health)? Is there even a minor issue with that? Or any issue at all? Or is sense just noise to you?

My point... is to ask is it possible... that his stats... are exactly as they were intended to be... especially since a dev said it won't change?

And seeing as every single toon in the entire game has multiple pieces that don't have a single useful stat on them whatsoever... is this a giant surprise?

And finally as for giving him a different gear piece that gives more survivability... is it possible... that they figured giving himself, and an entire team, foresight, tenacity up, and bonus protection, and giving himself foresight on a basic was plenty of survivability... especially on a character that arguably has more self TM manipulation than any other character in the game now, and can now do absurdly high damage? Is it possible that they purposely gave him a 'useless' gear piece that ONLY gives him 6 speed, 2,000 health, and a bit of armor because they wanted him squishy in light of all the new abilities he was getting? And is it then at least possible that they did exactly what they have done with every toon in the game hundreds of times over, and gave him a filler piece instead of going back and reworking his entire gear table to get those stats exactly where there are?

I can, and have acknowledged the system is dumb. But there is no perfect system, and there are plenty of logical reason this is not a giant mistake. And you already have an answer from a dev. So at this point if you can't at least acknowledge any of the above might have some validity then you're not seeing the other side, and are purposely being obtuse, and I'll argue just for sport until I get bored.

So can you admit any of that, and that its really not a big deal, or are you going to continue to gripe about it, and insist on it being an accident even after you already got an answer?

I can see all that as a possibility, I just choose not to believe it. I have heard Dev's say many things that are not true or accurate and many times just blowing smoke so they can say it is a response.
Yup we got an answer and yup it ain't changing. I have previously given my feelings on that and it is what it is, and to me the credibility goes down in what they say in situation like this, along with my expectations from them. In truth only CG knows the real reasons behind it. The answer they gave is just what they choose to say (yes they have not spoken the truth before for what ever reason) it doesn't mean any of it is the actual reason.

Doesn't matter though, they both give +6 speed ;)

I was wondering about this too. They made a point to deliberately change his damage to special then deliberately put the wrong bonus on his new gear.

Just another strategy to keep Jedi weak

On a more serious note, most likely an oversight

Jedi Mickey will solve it all.