Even tho i prefer sith and empire. and well the DS as a whole. i am so happy that all of these rebels and other characters that we needed (had) to farm for other events are being able to be used. Not to mention the amount of LS toons that are relevant or worth using are about 2 to 3 times more of them

There is no reason this had to be one way or the other. They could have arranged the table starting from each side moving towards a final battle in the middle, allowing you to play LS defending Hoth and DS advancing on Hoth. This seems ridiculously obvious, and I am a bit flummoxed that they didn't think of this. So much for "every toon matters." And I say this as a primarily light-side player who has most of the toons needed for specific missions. The way they set it up works just fine for me, but I'm not at all surprised that so many folks are irritated right now. This is the biggest game content addition since raids were introduced, and to effectively exclude an entire faction is just bizarre and tone-deaf.

Well Battlefront II you play as a team of imperial/FO soldiers so..... expect them in this game

"Swordd;c-1236656" wrote:There is no reason this had to be one way or the other. They could have arranged the table starting from each side moving towards a final battle in the middle, allowing you to play LS defending Hoth and DS advancing on Hoth. This seems ridiculously obvious, and I am a bit flummoxed that they didn't think of this. So much for "every toon matters." And I say this as a primarily light-side player who has most of the toons needed for specific missions. The way they set it up works just fine for me, but I'm not at all surprised that so many folks are irritated right now. This is the biggest game content addition since raids were introduced, and to effectively exclude an entire faction is just bizarre and tone-deaf. We are in the same boat, and I feel the same way. There has been too much light side/Rebel love. I like light side, and I'm sitting pretty well for this, and I understand that the nature of the movies means that there are more named Rebels.But the light side tilt is hard to defend.There are 16 (soon to be 19) more light side toons than dark. Even the B and C list light side factions (like Jawas, and Ewoks) have important uses, good synergy, and special events. While the dark side sports some of the worst factions in the game. (Nightsisters, Seperatists, Bounty Hunters, Tuskans, etc)And I had the same idea about starting a board from opposite sides, using both, and meeting in the middle. That would have been great. Not trying to steal your thunder with that idea, but as you said it's "ridiculously obvious."Not trying to be too critical of this game mode yet. It looks like a lot of fun. The rewards look great. I'm excited to get into it. I'm 90% positive looking at Territory Battles. But I hope that this marks the end of Rebel love for a bit, and the beginning of some major dark side reworks, character additions, and at some point a dark side focused Territory Battles map. And that's coming from someone who has been desperate to see Mace get a beastly rework for over a year.

"Swordd;c-1236656" wrote:There is no reason this had to be one way or the other.There's no reason anything has to be anything, sure. But there's plenty of reasons why you should do something, for example making this a light sode event this time.Light is popular. Like, way more popular. Way, way, way more popular. Star Wars is the story of the Light Side beating up the Dark Side and taking its lunch money. Sure, Dark Side is cool and edgey in a "Zach Snyder makes the best movies so dark and grin" kind of way. But it's the losing side and it's the evil side. Why wouldn't the first Battle be Light-oriented?

I don't know about everyone else... /sarcasm/ but my first free and unlocked characters were Light Side... the Dark Side characters came a little later.No need to fret, they will release a Dark Side TB in the future. And for the (I'm guessing/speculating this figure) 25% of the player base that focused on Dark Side, are the ones upset that first TB is LS. IF YOU were the developer, you would target the largest audience for success initially, i.e. the other 75% of the playerbase that has strong LS roster. Hence it's less impactful to upset 25% instead of the 75%.Once both LS and DS TB are in full effect this will be a non-issue. And the same for new players who won't have a bias that they expect the game to conform to their imposed character focus. Also, imagine the uproar from the 75% about how the required DS take much longer to farm than most of the LS. Everyone would suffer the less rewards and much longer ramp up time to be prepared for a DS TB.

Why Light Side is the perfect decision for TB.

dwdych
8 years ago
There is no reason this had to be one way or the other. They could have arranged the table starting from each side moving towards a final battle in the middle, allowing you to play LS defending Hoth and DS advancing on Hoth. This seems ridiculously obvious, and I am a bit flummoxed that they didn't think of this. So much for "every toon matters."

And I say this as a primarily light-side player who has most of the toons needed for specific missions. The way they set it up works just fine for me, but I'm not at all surprised that so many folks are irritated right now. This is the biggest game content addition since raids were introduced, and to effectively exclude an entire faction is just bizarre and tone-deaf.
peephole303
8 years ago
Well Battlefront II you play as a team of imperial/FO soldiers so..... expect them in this game
JacenRoe
8 years ago
"Swordd;c-1236656" wrote:
There is no reason this had to be one way or the other. They could have arranged the table starting from each side moving towards a final battle in the middle, allowing you to play LS defending Hoth and DS advancing on Hoth. This seems ridiculously obvious, and I am a bit flummoxed that they didn't think of this. So much for "every toon matters."

And I say this as a primarily light-side player who has most of the toons needed for specific missions. The way they set it up works just fine for me, but I'm not at all surprised that so many folks are irritated right now. This is the biggest game content addition since raids were introduced, and to effectively exclude an entire faction is just bizarre and tone-deaf.

We are in the same boat, and I feel the same way. There has been too much light side/Rebel love. I like light side, and I'm sitting pretty well for this, and I understand that the nature of the movies means that there are more named Rebels.
But the light side tilt is hard to defend.

There are 16 (soon to be 19) more light side toons than dark. Even the B and C list light side factions (like Jawas, and Ewoks) have important uses, good synergy, and special events. While the dark side sports some of the worst factions in the game. (Nightsisters, Seperatists, Bounty Hunters, Tuskans, etc)

And I had the same idea about starting a board from opposite sides, using both, and meeting in the middle. That would have been great. Not trying to steal your thunder with that idea, but as you said it's "ridiculously obvious."

Not trying to be too critical of this game mode yet. It looks like a lot of fun. The rewards look great. I'm excited to get into it. I'm 90% positive looking at Territory Battles. But I hope that this marks the end of Rebel love for a bit, and the beginning of some major dark side reworks, character additions, and at some point a dark side focused Territory Battles map. And that's coming from someone who has been desperate to see Mace get a beastly rework for over a year.
NicWester
8 years ago
"Swordd;c-1236656" wrote:
There is no reason this had to be one way or the other.

There's no reason anything has to be anything, sure. But there's plenty of reasons why you should do something, for example making this a light sode event this time.

Light is popular. Like, way more popular. Way, way, way more popular. Star Wars is the story of the Light Side beating up the Dark Side and taking its lunch money. Sure, Dark Side is cool and edgey in a "Zach Snyder makes the best movies so dark and grin" kind of way. But it's the losing side and it's the evil side. Why wouldn't the first Battle be Light-oriented?
Smokinjoe141414
8 years ago
I don't know about everyone else... /sarcasm/
but my first free and unlocked characters were Light Side... the Dark Side characters came a little later.

No need to fret, they will release a Dark Side TB in the future. And for the (I'm guessing/speculating this figure) 25% of the player base that focused on Dark Side, are the ones upset that first TB is LS.

IF YOU were the developer, you would target the largest audience for success initially, i.e. the other 75% of the playerbase that has strong LS roster. Hence it's less impactful to upset 25% instead of the 75%.

Once both LS and DS TB are in full effect this will be a non-issue. And the same for new players who won't have a bias that they expect the game to conform to their imposed character focus. Also, imagine the uproar from the 75% about how the required DS take much longer to farm than most of the LS. Everyone would suffer the less rewards and much longer ramp up time to be prepared for a DS TB.
JacenRoe
8 years ago
"Rogee;c-1236792" wrote:
I don't know about everyone else... /sarcasm/
but my first free and unlocked characters were Light Side... the Dark Side characters came a little later.

No need to fret, they will release a Dark Side TB in the future. And for the (I'm guessing/speculating this figure) 25% of the player base that focused on Dark Side, are the ones upset that first TB is LS.

IF YOU were the developer, you would target the largest audience for success initially, i.e. the other 75% of the playerbase that has strong LS roster. Hence it's less impactful to upset 25% instead of the 75%.

Once both LS and DS TB are in full effect this will be a non-issue. And the same for new players who won't have a bias that they expect the game to conform to their imposed character focus. Also, imagine the uproar from the 75% about how the required DS take much longer to farm than most of the LS. Everyone would suffer the less rewards and much longer ramp up time to be prepared for a DS TB.

Did you know that 83% of people have on at least one occasion made up completely fake stats out of thin air to prove a point?
Smokinjoe141414
8 years ago
"JacenRoe;c-1236830" wrote:
Did you know that 83% of people have on at least one occasion made up completely fake stats out of thin air to prove a point?

But I have a pie chart to give validity to my bogus claims.

http://www.20sfinances.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/piechart-copy.jpg
JacenRoe
8 years ago
"Rogee;c-1236835" wrote:
"JacenRoe;c-1236830" wrote:
Did you know that 83% of people have on at least one occasion made up completely fake stats out of thin air to prove a point?

But I have a pie chart to give validity to my bogus claims.

http://www.20sfinances.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/piechart-copy.jpg

:D

That's much better. I will say that if more people do have more light side it's not because they are liked by 75% of people. (It's totally anecdotal, and not firm evidence, but the guilds I have been in have been largely even splits if not more dark side friendly.) It's because they are forced on us. The Rebels get more characters than any other faction, and more time at the top of the meta, and every time we were told that it was time for Sith, or Empire to take center stage it was always accompanied by more and better Rebels being added as well.

People feel like Rebels are being shoved down their throats, and dark side is the forgotten step child. Making it so that the newest, biggest and most important game mode doesn't even allow you to fight with any dark side characters is over the top for many long suffering dark siders who have had enough. Especially since we have no clue when a new map for TB might come out. Major game modes could take several months.

Again, I'm a Jedi fan mostly, and I'm in good shape for TB, but I'm very sympathetic to the DS fans who are getting inexcusably shafted again.
vCx-Redemption
8 years ago
"HyperCalm1;c-1236669" wrote:
"Jinks;c-1236645" wrote:
One can can only hope. 2017 was the rear of the Dark Side. This message was approved by Dr. Freud.

Yeah because Nihilus and Thrawn are obviously no good.

You say that like they make up for the lightside imbalance lmao.

DN is one of the best darkside toons and is the only
Darkside toon that is viable in top arena play meta consistently other than thrawn but thrawn has only been present in the meta since June which is only the thrAwn meta and the current CL.

May I remind you that on A EMPIRE REWORK PASS they introduced 2 rebels lmao.

And you mentioned thrawn and DN like we should be grateful and they somehow magically balance the imbalance when lightside has

Rex ( top meta since like ever)
GK ( top meta since release)
Chaze (top meta since release)
R2 (top meta since release)

Ohh btw don't try to mention toons like palp or Vader who's time was very short lived and put back on the shelf. And do you know why? Guessssssss what?!?! Rebels! Rebels rebels!
NicWester
8 years ago
The problem is that any imbalance is only in your mind. For almost all content you can use mixed squads.

It sucks you can't use dark side characters in this particular Territory Battle, but eventually there will be one that uses dark side characters.

Liking the evil characters is all well and good and go ahead and farm them, but if you're ignoring over half the characters in the game because all you want are the evil ones, then that's on you.