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9 years ago
"Naecabon;490918" wrote:"GeorgeRules;490915" wrote:"Naecabon;490886" wrote:"Mol_Eliza_99999;490881" wrote:
Guys, rather than bad-mouthing top guilds on Leaderboard, shouldn't you actually thank them for making the problem so obvious by posting high points on Leaderboard?
As @Naecabon correctly points out, there are more extreme examples that go unnoticed to general public and devs. We see 3000 pts and all say "whoa, let's lynch them" for doing 3 raids more than us but we don't realize that there are players who have done 30 raids more.
People don't consider that or care. They say "abuse is abuse!" and try to pin them up as equal. Which is fine - we obviously knew the lashing out would be intense as a result of jumping ahead, we just thought more people would see it for what it is and not use the backwards logic on the subject that they typically do. And, incidentally, we actually thought a ton of guilds would be doing this anyway. Surprise surprise when they didn't - and then we found out why... they were just fixated on guild hopping and spamming out tons more raids instead. Which, makes sense. This method was probably less efficient? So in a way we messed up. We should have played it the way EASB played it. Whoops!
Every single post crying out over it as an exploit and expecting any sort of punishment on the subject is just wasting time and will accomplish nothing. We know this and plenty of other guilds know this which is why so many are engaged in guild hopping right now - the devs came out and gave it the "okay" in the meantime and we all know it'll be changed in the near future so we're on a limited clock here. You're either accepting of what's in front of you and doing it or you're screaming over a situation that already has an expiration date and not taking action while you can.
Just wait - all the people that didn't bother guild hopping will shift their mob focus to "Now you can't guild hop and all those people that did have extra stuff we'll never have!" similar to the precrafting argument once this is changed and goes away. Once they realize nothing is going to happen to anyone and that this only benefited those that participated, they'll get even madder and try pushing even harder for some kind of compensation over it. This is all super predictable.
Said the exploiter who lost to a guild of people working together and sacrificing rewards so that one could do it.
I'm not entirely sure I understand. Who sacrificed rewards in your example? Why do you assume all of the EASB guilds are a full 50/50? If they're 49/50 and rotated one person through for the shards then technically no one lost anything, right?
Which was called fair game Nae, your response was to screw the game for everyone because you got beat. You cant sit there and honestly expect people to believe that all guilds in top 50 are doing this. There are a handfull of people. 200-400 tops who are doing alt farming. The fact you sit here saying we will be moaning about this in a few months should set the alarm bells off right away for the devs and who has been at the center of the topic since day one? Which guilds are visably doing it the most? Guild hopping and alt farming are seperate things. Both should be punished for causing this headache and annoyance to the rest of us.
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