"Vertigo;958304" wrote:
"xNine;958297" wrote:
I think the point a lot of people are missing is that there is a constant power shift and droids have been out of power for a while. Sith/Rebels/etc have been on top. Even clones and first order are better...
Oh no! Two factions that were previously horrible got some buffs to be viable and droids aren't number 1 anymore, the world is gonna end! And sith have been on top for like a month, Droids were on top far longer than that...
I'm not saying droids shouldn't be thought of by the Devs, but all of these "buff droids" posts are simply because droid users don't want to farm new teams, they just want to continue using their droids and only that one team. None of these threads are saying anything like:
"Droids should really have more functionality than just crits and damage to make them a more well rounded squad so they can be countered, but also have a chance at winning because I think the arena could use some more balance. And while the droids need this, you Devs should also add some more functionality to some Nightsisters and give them another character to work with as well so the people who invested in Nighsisters have a chance of being top tier as well and make the arena more balanced."
But no, it's always just "buff my droids, I wanna win," when it could be so much more than just that. I'm just waiting for the day we get a Droid user to post about how many teams need a little work and many teams moreso than the droids do and how that would make endgame more balanced overall and better for everyone.
Just gonna quote this from the first page since no one seemed to read it cuz it was at the bottom.
Droids WERE meta at one point. You can't say they weren't. Maybe you were here when they were the obviously the meta, but it still happened. They're also still very viable, but the problem with simply buffing droids is that there aren't any new droids that you would need to farm if you just directly buffed them.
Sith were never the meta, sure Dooku had his days, so did Sid, but these were just for leader abilities and when healing specials were important. EP had his time in the spotlight as a leader, but not with a full sith team, it was largely because of the Empire characters and Vader that he was able to prosper. Full Sith teams, especially ones with Maul in them, were never very good at all. Sith got a large buff, AND three new characters that could be considered game changers and must haves for the sith team.
Rebels were meta for a while with Wiggs and Lando, but with the added Rogue One characters, while Rebels were still meta, the best teams had the newer characters on them, not just the old ones and the old ones didn't get any buffs because they were already viable.
Jedi were pretty much atrocious unless you were able to mod your teams far better than your competition and run a solid counter team, which was still pretty easy to beat on offense because jedi teams were worse than droids on defense.
Resistance teams got some buffs, a zeta, and some actual synergy together. Rey and Poe had their times in the meta, but the whole resistance team had never been up there because of a lack of synergy and lack of overall usefulness.
First Order had been horrible for a while, Phasma had her time in the meta, but not because of her FO synergy, FOTP was great til he was nerfed, but Kylo and FOST and FOO were pretty much useless. They got a buff and a zeta that gave them a lot more synergy together to make them a viable team.
If you look at those changes, you'll notice that droids aren't in very similar situations to Resistance/Sith/FO/Jedi, but more closely related to the Rebels. Rebels were the only teams that were very viable for a while as a full squad. Jedi could be viable, but they were so bad on defense that no one wanted to run them unless they just had superior mods to the rest of their shard. Droids had been viable, as a WHOLE squad for a long time, and that squad didn't change. Droid were basically just ahead of all these Sith/FO/Resistance/Rebel teams in the fact that they functioned great together long before any other faction could truly work amazingly with 4 or 5 members of that faction. The droid teams are still viable at high gear and good mods just like any other team is. They aren't bad. Nightsisters are bad. Nightsisters have 2 zetas (both on Ventress) and they are still bad. Jedi are only good if you have GK and zQGJ or Zarrris or both. Back to the point though, you can't just buff droids, thats like buffing Wiggs and Lando and STH. They're still viable, they're still easy to farm and they're still f2p. If droids get a buff it'll be on their useless team members (looking at you GG), and they'll probably release a couple more droids to make the team move away from the HK lead with IGs. While the Droids are in a more similar situation to the Rebel teams, the problem there is that there aren't a billion different droids to choose from like there are Rebels. Theres only so many to choose from, and most of them aren't all that relevant anymore. So they can't just release 5 more droids that you need to farm, they'll probably buff GG, give him a Zeta (like they did with zQGJ or probably more like how they buffed Maul and gave him a zeta) and then release a couple more droids that would be a must have for the team like Droideka and maybe some commando/assassin droids or just the regular battle droids or 4-LOM. GG's leader zeta will give them a new strategy and these new droids will probably fit well into it, and maybe one of two of the old ones will as well. Just like how Chaze still works with Wiggs, but you would need Chaze to make the team great. Or how you need zQGJ to keep your jedi alive, but you also need GK as the taunter and cleanser to keep your team from being targeted.
Basically you can't just ask for droids to get a buff or to get a zeta and expect nothing else to happen. They're not just going to make your same droid team magically the top team again. That 1) wouldn't be fair and 2) wouldn't make as much $$. None of the top tier zeta abilities were given to an already viable team without also making them need to farm something else. Rework and buff Nightsisters, Ewoks, Tuskens, etc. before thinking about droids, many other factions have such little synergy with eachother and are so weak compared to droid teams it's not even funny. Droids are still viable, they don't need a buff. Sure give them some attention, but by attention I mean give new droids some attention, so they get the same treatment as the Sith and Rebels and the Jedi. Droids can't be compared to the Resistance and FO teams because those teams were so bad together they needed a buff to be even considered for arena. Droids are not like that. Droids are a good team, but they have been the same team for so long that everyone knows how to fight them. People are scared of things they don't understand, but everyone understands droids now, they're familiar, and people fight them. That's why they drop. Not because they're bad, it's because most teams are beatable, but most people just feel safer fighting droids because they know how to face the team because it's been the exact same team for so long.
TL;DR, Sure give droids some love, but don't give it before other factions that need it far more and give them love the same way they give love to other factions, by adding new characters that you need, not just buffing your poor old IGs and HK.
