Are potency mods worth anything?

It depends on the team and character mechanics and bases stats, just as it always has. Nothing has changed.

JTR teams do not need potency, bcz their exposes are based on crit.

zFinn teams on the other hand do need potency and the team will not work against tenacity up. But this team is mainly PVE for certain phases of raids and territory battles, and yes u need potency.

Palp and Vader need potency even though palp lead gives potency because you want to land as many debuffs and stuns as possible.

CLS teams usually do not need potency because CLS has +40% from his skills, but Han Solo does need potency to remove turn meter and stun because his base potency is extremely low (like 15%).

CLS and han solo when facing palp lead could use potency now more than ever bcz palp reduces their potency and if you miss a buff immunity or a stun u will cry. Against a double tank palp team where you have to buff immunity 1 tank and fracture the other, it could cost you the match of buff immunity diesnt stick.

DN does not need potency because his skills do not do a potency check.

"Mobewan;c-1494976" wrote:

zFinn teams on the other hand do need potency and the team will not work against tenacity up. But this team is mainly PVE for certain phases of raids and territory battles, and yes u need potency.

True for the AAT, you need to stack a whole lot of potency from mods for the exposes to stick. But I don't use them there anymore because they're too slow and I have to do the battle 100% manual (which means by the time it's over, there's a good chance the raid is over for more than 1h and I missed it).

I'm not sure about Territory Battles, I don't think the snowtroopers have that much tenacity. I'll try.

"Mobewan;c-1494976" wrote:

Palp and Vader need potency even though palp lead gives potency because you want to land as many debuffs and stuns as possible.

Not true, they're fine with their basis potency (30-50%) + Palp's bonus (+35%). I run them in Arena without potency mods and never see any "resist" (well, I do, but probably the basis 15%). That 24% potency cross there is 23.5% protection you just lost (and same with +10% from set = 5% health, agreed that's negligible).

"Mobewan;c-1494976" wrote:

CLS teams usually do not need potency because CLS has +40% from his skills, but Han Solo does need potency to remove turn meter and stun because his base potency is extremely low (like 15%).
CLS and han solo when facing palp lead could use potency now more than ever bcz palp reduces their potency and if you miss a buff immunity or a stun u will cry. Against a double tank palp team where you have to buff immunity 1 tank and fracture the other, it could cost you the match of buff immunity diesnt stick.

Even if they fight a Palp team in Arena and assuming Han's potency drops to 0, yes Han's effects (except the initial stun, can't resist) would fail about twice as much (up from 15% to ~30%). CLS will be just fine.
However, in order to compensate those -35%, you need a cross and a set, and that much health + protection lost might mean Han is dead by the second time he would have used his stun hit anyway.

"JohnnySteelAlpha;c-1495446" wrote:
You can debuff DN in the Sith raid ...

I have seen a debuff (from Rey I think) land once in 20-30 times. I think you need a ridiculously high potency from mods to see some actual effect. I haven't tried Palp + Vader to see whether DoTs do stick.
Somehow I think thermal detonators did stick more than average (that means still not a lot), with my Zam's potency at around 80%

"Waqui;c-1495448" wrote:
Bounty hunters rely heavily on potency in their special missions and combat mission in dark side territory battle.

Yes and with Boba's leadership, potency = max health for them, so definitely potency mods are a good choice for them.

"Range1974;c-1495503" wrote:
I find myself farming potency mods quite often now. The one to not pick, IMO, would be tenacity. A Game Changer (I think mobile gamer) did. Video about the two mod types a few months ago.

Yes tenacity mods are useless. I tried bringing the tenacity of some toon in Arena to 100% in the past, he was stunned/shocked/... just as much as everyone else. The only exception I know is Magmatrooper under Thrawn lead for the Sith Raid.

Yeah, they are fairly un useful in general. Maybe second only to offense mods in the least useful category. But my g8 zfinn team sure likes them for tb, so they do have niche uses.

Also, hi tiggus! Long time no see =)

I'm still unconvinced potency mods are useful except for a handful of specific characters. So that shrinks the useful diversity of mods to really not a lot then.

About 90% of my collection should be modded as:
Main:
- Arrow = Speed
- Circle = Protection
- Cross = Protection
- Triangle = Protection (or Crit Damage for a bunch of heavy hitters)

Sets:
- Speed for those guys where just 1 extra speed might mean you go first and increase your odds of winning by the boatload
- Crit Damage for all attackers (perhaps Offense)
- Irrelevant for anything else


... And so much for theocrafting, and writing clever guides on what to use where...

"DedrickRogue;c-1496301" wrote:
Yes, potency mods have tons of uses. They are probably 2nd behind Speed as far as most useful overall set. Tons of characters/factions really need a potency boost over a bit more health or Crit Chance.

I think Crit Damage and Speed are the only useful mod sets. The rest is decoration, and potency is mostly useless decoration.
The main stat on the cross should almost always be Protection. as opposed to that, Potency just reduces the prot of your toon by 23% for no proven benefit.

"Mobewan;c-1496628" wrote:

Arena:
EP lead reduces rebel potency making it harder for han to land stuns. It you put a tencity cross on top of that ep lead bonus, it will be really hard for buff immunity or stun to land.

If you give a tenacity cross to EP, it's guaranteed he won't resist anything: he'll be dead by turn 2.
I wrote a thread here some time ago where I experimented in Arena with a high tenacity mods (88%), with absolutely no effect at all. Please show me a screenshot or a video where CLS consistently fails to debuff Empire toons?

"Mobewan;c-1496628" wrote:

Sith Raid:
Phase 1 dn debuffs you when you attack with basic. However, a tenacity cross can greatly help reduce the number of debuffs on you. Combine that with hermit yoda master training tenacity bonus and its a home run. Yodas buff alone works half the time to resist debuffs. The tenacity cross does the rest. Characters with very high natural tenacity may not need the tenacity cross with masters training, but most do.

He's only applying defense down no? I haven't tried Hermit Yoda, but yes if that manages to reliably resist it, it's a nice niche usage then.

@Drazz127 Hehe, yes it seems. Add to your list Sidious (max health = potency, that's a nice way of gaining cheap health.

@Snake2 Hey, indeed it's been some time... Still enjoying the game I see! Say hi to the rest of the crew for me, if you're still with them!

You can debuff DN in the Sith raid ... so no potency is not worthless. You just need to figure out ways to stack it either by combining leaders + mods + uniques + BB8 secret intel + Yoda Master Training, toons that give potency up (Marauder, Bodhi)...etc.

Bounty hunters rely heavily on potency in their special missions and combat mission in dark side territory battle.

I find myself farming potency mods quite often now. The one to not pick, IMO, would be tenacity. A Game Changer (I think mobile gamer) did. Video about the two mod types a few months ago.

I think you need 15+% more Tenacity on your toon (stats page plus ability modifications) then the attacking toons potency (stats page plus ability modifications) to see any benefit. Else you will just get the base 15% resist chance.

So if people in arena stop using potency mods/crosses, then toons with tenacity mods/crosses will become useful again. I can get Rex to near 100% tenacity, so vs an EP lead without potency mods/crosses that might give Rex about a 30% resist chance. But EP (and CLS & JTR) are special cases.

R2D2 is another dude that benefits from potency. Dem stuns!

Yes, potency mods have tons of uses. They are probably 2nd behind Speed as far as most useful overall set. Tons of characters/factions really need a potency boost over a bit more health or Crit Chance.