Barriss nerf

Feel the same way as the op. This was an unfair and excessive nerf to a premium and one dimensional character. The new pack is already silly overpriced but with this move I am even less interested.

And yes this IS a substantial nerf. Her healing effects were all she brought to the table and we paid for her.

Lesson : don't buy character packs. Good job, EA.

"DarthVanio;12679" wrote:
That nerf isn't that bad. Her heal is still massive. This game is new and nerfs + buffs are expected. So i don't think that Barriss is massively nerfed. And there is something else that is positive - with these changes we can do our best to invent the new ultimate team - the new meta if you will, so i don't think all these changes are bad.
May the force be with you.

Actually it's a very severe nerf... As the heal used to be based on a percentage of Barriss's health, now it's based off the health of the target... Barriss has the highest health not sure if she still does with all the new characters... In addition to this change the percentages have been reduced by over 60% on each level of the skill... It's a much bigger nerf than you think

I'm guess you used the heal on a very high health character to think it hasn't been nerfed as badly

"DarthVanio;12679" wrote:
That nerf isn't that bad. Her heal is still massive. This game is new and nerfs + buffs are expected. So i don't think that Barriss is massively nerfed. And there is something else that is positive - with these changes we can do our best to invent the new ultimate team - the new meta if you will, so i don't think all these changes are bad.
May the force be with you.

It isn't about the ultimate team, it's about her having always been an one dimensional character. All she could do was heal. The heal is no better than any one else's heal now. I'm not saying that that is necessarily a bad thing, except she brings nothing else to the table. The Consular does better damage and has a good heal on a shorter cooldown. Luminara's heal is a bit weaker but brings vastly better offense.

I'm not saying her heal didn't need to be lowered a bit, but her proc heal was cut in half and so was her main heal. If it was 3%/6% and max of 15% of Barriss' maximum health I'd feel better about it, but it is of the character's max health. I was doing a GW and she healed. After the health equalizer, a low health character regained a massive +432 health. He lost roughly 400 health AFTER BEING HEALED. The equalizer took him down about 800 points of health and only regened 432. Since the health equalizer is based on health percentage, the heal may not even make up for the loss from that heal.

Her main heal, aside from the equalization, now does only about 1400 points at level 54 well geared.

She's a healer who can't heal. What were they thinking?!

You're wrong because her main heal is now rubbish which means she is useless in arena where there are hard hitters and she cant be subbed out.

And she is still hard to farm and BRINGS NOTHING TO THE TABLE other than a nerfed heal.

"DarthVanio;12712" wrote:

"Skye;12702" wrote:

"DarthVanio;12679" wrote:
That nerf isn't that bad. Her heal is still massive. This game is new and nerfs + buffs are expected. So i don't think that Barriss is massively nerfed. And there is something else that is positive - with these changes we can do our best to invent the new ultimate team - the new meta if you will, so i don't think all these changes are bad.
May the force be with you.

Actually it's a very severe nerf... As the heal used to be based on a percentage of Barriss's health, now it's based off the health of the target... Barriss has the highest health not sure if she still does with all the new characters... In addition to this change the percentages have been reduced by over 60% on each level of the skill... It's a much bigger nerf than you think

I'm guess you used the heal on a very high health character to think it hasn't been nerfed as badly

As the matter of fact, we have been used to get all toons hp to the max after Barriss heal. But that wasn't balanced. Now her heal is not that bad as you say it is. I know that this is a char that is bought but nerf will come all the way down. She still has the best heal in this game, and she might not heal to the max but she is still pretty dem OP. That's my thoughts and i dont want to disturb anyone with this, but this is how i see her atm. I am willing to take criticism and want to learn more stuff so if i am mistaken please excuse me and explain me where i go wrong.

I've not used her yet but looking at the description its a very very severe nerf... A friend told me it literally does nothing and said that the ewok elder heals better than her even without the elder geared up... Elder has one of the worst heals in game and now Barriss's heal is according to my friend worse than that?! Then yeah I'm inclined to believe it was way over nerfed....

Don't get me wrong it needed to be bought down from what it was but not by as much as it has been. Cause like others said Barriss doesn't bring anything else to the table... If the ewok elder can heal better than her, I might as well bring the elder because he can actually revive dead people.. What can Barriss do?

"DarthVanio;12712" wrote:

"Skye;12702" wrote:

"DarthVanio;12679" wrote:
That nerf isn't that bad. Her heal is still massive. This game is new and nerfs + buffs are expected. So i don't think that Barriss is massively nerfed. And there is something else that is positive - with these changes we can do our best to invent the new ultimate team - the new meta if you will, so i don't think all these changes are bad.
May the force be with you.

Actually it's a very severe nerf... As the heal used to be based on a percentage of Barriss's health, now it's based off the health of the target... Barriss has the highest health not sure if she still does with all the new characters... In addition to this change the percentages have been reduced by over 60% on each level of the skill... It's a much bigger nerf than you think

I'm guess you used the heal on a very high health character to think it hasn't been nerfed as badly

As the matter of fact, we have been used to get all toons hp to the max after Barriss heal. But that wasn't balanced. Now her heal is not that bad as you say it is. I know that this is a char that is bought but nerf will come all the way down. She still has the best heal in this game, and she might not heal to the max but she is still pretty dem OP. That's my thoughts and i dont want to disturb anyone with this, but this is how i see her atm. I am willing to take criticism and want to learn more stuff so if i am mistaken please excuse me and explain me where i go wrong.

No, you're wrong. Her heal is slightly better than average and only because of the healing equalizer. But you are also missing the point. It isn't just that her healing was nerfed. It was the fact that she now has a good heal with still zero offense. Every other healer has a similar total heal but brings offense or other utility to the table. Barriss offers none of that. She has zero utility outside of her heal.

Barris does still have her passive heals. So she will end up being gw only :(

While the nerf sucks, I am happy with the timing as I will save my $100 and wait a few months to see what damage they do to the new pack! EA do your testing elsewhere and not at our expense please!

I don't know about you guys but looks like I'm going to have fun slaying all the "Bariss reliant" builds in PVP. 90% of my Top 50 is Bariss reliant