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8 years ago

Best counter to cls?

My shard is relatively new, going for around 4 months. With the cls event, about 20 of the top 50 are set to get him.

Unfortunately I wasn't prepared so I will have to wait till next time. I was wondering what the best counter to cls is bearing in mind how young my shard is? I want to stay competitive, hopefully staying within the top 20.

Our shard was heavily wiggs based with a few people running phoenix, first order or nihilus leads. I currently run wiggs, chaze, r2. Do i stick with them or should I target specific toons? I'm currently switching focus to phoenix so I can get thrawn. I'm fairly close to raid han but my guild isn't running haat.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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  • "Wearesyke;c-1410511" wrote:
    I just got CLS myself this round. He is exceptionally overpowered. He is the best toon I've ever used on offense. Able to ignore taunt whenever I want? My god that is insane. I can beat every single team on my shard now, and they are all totally maxed teams. RJT teams, other CLS teams, zTalzin lead teams. It's all a cakewalk on offense.

    I was running zDN lead before, and CLS teams destroyed me. I had to prey on the gk/zarris teams instead.
    -I agree with one poster above, the counter to cls is cls.
    -You don't have gk so gk/zarris is out.
    -Thrawn does help, but an all empire team is a disgusting farm that I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy.
    -Baze will kill himself when he does his AOE at the start from smokescreen
    -all sith are helpless no matter what
    -Rex lead works but you need gk to protect Rex. So that is out

    Let's assume your shard is now CLS, R2, Chaze, Zolo since it's too new for any OP GK's to be around. Your only hope now is better speed mods and turn order.

    You need a Thrawn that is very fast. 250+. Then you need r2 as close behind Thrawn as possible. We make Thrawn faster so if zHan stuns your r2, Thrawn can swap with r2 and cleanse him. Now no matter what, even on defense, your r2 will smokescreen turn 1.

    Now you need Biggs to be as close behind r2 as possible. After that, you'll need wedge to be around 200 but with every crit damage and offense mod you have. He has to hit as hard as a diamond drill to the face

    Last, you need old ben. The thing about old ben, is he doesn't taunt on his first turn. Some would say this is bad, but it's actually good. If he taunts turn one, CLS will just swipe him and it's over. But since he mind tricks turn one, his taunt will get up 90% of the time, and CLS will have his dispel on cooldown. You will need old ben at 200+ speed. I run my old ben at 211 speed and a zeta on his taunt.

    Let's play it out. Han stuns one toon turn 1. AS LONG AS IT IS NOT THRAWN YOU HAVE A CHANCE! Thrawn will swap with r2. Never fracture first turn. I'll explain why. R2 will smoke everyone but old ben giving ben foresight. Thrawn will now fracture baze. Fracturing baze gives the opponents CLS 100% TM from his unique. He WILL ALWAYS use his swipe special on ben. But he misses due to foresight. He has now wasted his dispel.

    Unfortunately, you can't stop his r2 from smoking everyone too. That's ok. You are going to smash baze's face in as fast as you can. Wiggs triple, then wedge basic if baze has defense down. He won't gain HOTs cause he is fractured.

    With CLS teams, once the tank is dead, it becomes a lot easier. Next target is zHan. NEVER ATTACK A ZETA HAN IF YOU DONT HAVE STEALTH OR IF OLD BEN ISNT TAUNTING. He will destroy you by himself. The best part for you is he is super squishy. So Wiggs triple should do most of it.

    Next fracture CLS. He is useless when he is in time-out. Kill him as fast as you can. Then fracture r2. Kill him. Then fracture Chirrut. Kill him last.

    Wiggs, r2, Thrawn, old ben. I promise you it will work.

    I hope you have Thrawn or this was a massive waste of time lol.


    That's great advice thanks. Unfortunately I don't have thrawn but I'm working on phoenix for his next event which I hope will be in February. Im disappointed it isn't January as I have them all very close.

    My current set up is doing okay but I do rely on rng and cls teams are still be geared up. Just hope thrawn comes in time for me to stay with the rest haha
  • "CountPookoo;c-1410475" wrote:
    ..I have CLS but refuse to use him...


    If you refuse to use the game’s most powerful characters, then I’d recommend a team with Mob Enforcer, Coruscant Underworld Police, Ugnaught, Jedi Knight Guardian, and URoRRuR’R’R.
  • It's like everything in life. However big and tough you are- there is always someone bigger and tougher.

    CLS is the best character. But there will always be a "lesser" character with better stats or getting some better luck on the day.

    Nobody is ever unbeatable.
  • "CoastalJames;c-1410684" wrote:
    It's like everything in life. However big and tough you are- there is always someone bigger and tougher.

    CLS is the best character. But there will always be a "lesser" character with better stats or getting some better luck on the day.

    Nobody is ever unbeatable.


    There's always a bigger fish
    - Q. G. J
  • Characters that give the debuff Daze and Stun do a great job at stopping CLS and the other rebels with counter attack. Like others have said Han Solo from the Rancor does great with his special ability stunning and his first attack dealing a high amount of critical damage. Your arena team could work if you be careful and avoid AOE attacks, unless they are under stealth from R2D2. Something to keep in mind you could try using Stormtrooper Han his taunt does great at giving the rest of your team turn meter.
  • "dad2my3;c-1410671" wrote:
    "CountPookoo;c-1410475" wrote:
    ..I have CLS but refuse to use him...


    If you refuse to use the game’s most powerful characters, then I’d recommend a team with Mob Enforcer, Coruscant Underworld Police, Ugnaught, Jedi Knight Guardian, and URoRRuR’R’R.


    Do they make a good team? (jokes!) :)

    I like making teams different to the meta and wasn’t expecting CLS to be that much of a game changer tbh our shard has been completely transformed over past 3 days with those who invested in rebels being rewarded heavily which is just a tad frustrating with me being an Empire loyalist.

    Thanks for your post Weareskye! Your posts are really well thought out and try to come at the problem from a different angle - a true asset to the SWGOH community.

    Cheers


  • I was running a first order team for the longest time, never had too much trouble with cls. Stun with kylo then kill with FOTP
  • "STR3TCH1982;c-1411072" wrote:
    I was running a first order team for the longest time, never had too much trouble with cls. Stun with kylo then kill with FOTP


    Oh? You make it sound so easy. So you stunned CLS, how did you then work around GK, cuz he is surely taunting now. Then comes R2 stealth. Well, now you are surely stuck on GK. And what has Zolo been doing? Thrawn didn’t come in with a crippling fracture?

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