Sooooooo what ever anyone wants to call it is fine dosnt rly matter the fact is that it happened. I think it rly sucks that we lost a triple attack chance with 5's I use him in main Team. That being said I still think he is a Boss. speed down and double attack is still awesome. He can take so much damage and still counters what seems like 100% of the time he is not going anywhere for me. Now Granet I run a clone Team so he is a little more important to me than someone that is just throwing him in as a spot filler, either way still think he is a started in most cases