Darth Revan vs Jedi Knight Revan

Yeah it's like they have to make old metas useless so people are forced to buy the new OP ones

"IE4TAPPL3S;c-1809730" wrote:
Yeah it's like they have to make old metas useless so people are forced to buy the new OP ones

Its the only way for games like this to make money.

"Crackling_Doom;c-1809857" wrote:

"Omeah;d-198745" wrote:
Come on, they should beat each other, not Darth Revan kicking JKR's **** 100% of the time. Also why does Fallen Bastila and DR have Force Bond, but not Bastila and JKR? CG could at least make an effort to try to look like they not only care about money

Except,

1) he won't,
2) Darth Revan has no Strategic Advantage,
3) no revives on a Darth Revan team,
4) no marked on a Darth Revan team (Deathmark is different and only applies occasionally, Marked can be applied by JKR after 4 cooldowns).

Really not sure why you're complaining.

If you honestly read through DR's kit and thought there was any way shape or form that a jedi team could even come close to beating that kit, you're delusional.

If we ignore that as soon as DR and FBast get a turn, your entire team is essentially stunlocked for the rest of the fight:

You can't stun or ability block. You can't inflict ANY debuffs. You can't gain foresight. You have to deal with FBast getting foresight basically every turn. You will either have buff immunity or get dispelled basically every turn. Your team won't be able to gain any bonus TM, you can't reduce TM of the sith empire team, and you can't use any assists or bonus attacks to kill revan.

A jedi team that can't gain buffs or spread buffs or get foresight or crit and can't assist while attacking the leader...gonna be real effective

They stopped pretending 18 months ago. High level play is now prescribed by CG. Assimilate or be destroyed. Oh, sorry. Wrong Sci-fi.

Incidentally, I agree. If they simply end up replacing the top 100 squad arena Revans with 100 Darth Revans, there's going to be a lot of people walking away. Myself likely among them.

Thank you or taking part in CGs simulation of a game, please do not falsly consider this simulation as a game for it just to gather data for months

Ill wait to see how it goes, ive been running jedi revan for a couple of months now and probably will get wrecked.

Well have to see.

"deltaloko;c-1809966" wrote:

"Crackling_Doom;c-1809857" wrote:

"Omeah;d-198745" wrote:
Come on, they should beat each other, not Darth Revan kicking JKR's **** 100% of the time. Also why does Fallen Bastila and DR have Force Bond, but not Bastila and JKR? CG could at least make an effort to try to look like they not only care about money

Except,

1) he won't,
2) Darth Revan has no Strategic Advantage,
3) no revives on a Darth Revan team,
4) no marked on a Darth Revan team (Deathmark is different and only applies occasionally, Marked can be applied by JKR after 4 cooldowns).

Really not sure why you're complaining.

If you honestly read through DR's kit and thought there was any way shape or form that a jedi team could even come close to beating that kit, you're delusional.

If we ignore that as soon as DR and FBast get a turn, your entire team is essentially stunlocked for the rest of the fight:

You can't stun or ability block. You can't inflict ANY debuffs. You can't gain foresight. You have to deal with FBast getting foresight basically every turn. You will either have buff immunity or get dispelled basically every turn. Your team won't be able to gain any bonus TM, you can't reduce TM of the sith empire team, and you can't use any assists or bonus attacks to kill revan.

A jedi team that can't gain buffs or spread buffs or get foresight or crit and can't assist while attacking the leader...gonna be real effective

JKR Officially trashed.

"deltaloko;c-1809966" wrote:

A jedi team that can't gain buffs or spread buffs or get foresight or crit and can't assist while attacking the leader...gonna be real effective

And that is beautiful! Jedi need a team that render them useless. Maybe this will introduce some actual diversity in arena, because yes DR seems extremely OP against Jedi, doesn't seem super OP against other Meta's.

"Crackling_Doom;c-1810006" wrote:

"deltaloko;c-1809966" wrote:

"Crackling_Doom;c-1809857" wrote:

"Omeah;d-198745" wrote:
Come on, they should beat each other, not Darth Revan kicking JKR's **** 100% of the time. Also why does Fallen Bastila and DR have Force Bond, but not Bastila and JKR? CG could at least make an effort to try to look like they not only care about money

Except,

1) he won't,
2) Darth Revan has no Strategic Advantage,
3) no revives on a Darth Revan team,
4) no marked on a Darth Revan team (Deathmark is different and only applies occasionally, Marked can be applied by JKR after 4 cooldowns).

Really not sure why you're complaining.

If you honestly read through DR's kit and thought there was any way shape or form that a jedi team could even come close to beating that kit, you're delusional.

If we ignore that as soon as DR and FBast get a turn, your entire team is essentially stunlocked for the rest of the fight:

You can't stun or ability block. You can't inflict ANY debuffs. You can't gain foresight. You have to deal with FBast getting foresight basically every turn. You will either have buff immunity or get dispelled basically every turn. Your team won't be able to gain any bonus TM, you can't reduce TM of the sith empire team, and you can't use any assists or bonus attacks to kill revan.

A jedi team that can't gain buffs or spread buffs or get foresight or crit and can't assist while attacking the leader...gonna be real effective

And yet you're ignoring the fact that Darth Revan is weakening his team's defence and making them easier to kill. 5 stacks of Ferocity (-15% defence and tenacity) means - 75% defence and tenacity for 2 turns.

It's not all about debuffs or buffs. It's about strategy. And you're overlooking it.

You may be in for a rough couple weeks man. I don't see jedi coming close to beating this team. It's going to take a very niche team I think but we will see once it's in play.

"Crackling_Doom;c-1810006" wrote:

"deltaloko;c-1809966" wrote:

"Crackling_Doom;c-1809857" wrote:

"Omeah;d-198745" wrote:
Come on, they should beat each other, not Darth Revan kicking JKR's **** 100% of the time. Also why does Fallen Bastila and DR have Force Bond, but not Bastila and JKR? CG could at least make an effort to try to look like they not only care about money

Except,

1) he won't,
2) Darth Revan has no Strategic Advantage,
3) no revives on a Darth Revan team,
4) no marked on a Darth Revan team (Deathmark is different and only applies occasionally, Marked can be applied by JKR after 4 cooldowns).

Really not sure why you're complaining.

If you honestly read through DR's kit and thought there was any way shape or form that a jedi team could even come close to beating that kit, you're delusional.

If we ignore that as soon as DR and FBast get a turn, your entire team is essentially stunlocked for the rest of the fight:

You can't stun or ability block. You can't inflict ANY debuffs. You can't gain foresight. You have to deal with FBast getting foresight basically every turn. You will either have buff immunity or get dispelled basically every turn. Your team won't be able to gain any bonus TM, you can't reduce TM of the sith empire team, and you can't use any assists or bonus attacks to kill revan.

A jedi team that can't gain buffs or spread buffs or get foresight or crit and can't assist while attacking the leader...gonna be real effective

And yet you're ignoring the fact that Darth Revan is weakening his team's defence and making them easier to kill. 5 stacks of Ferocity (-15% defence and tenacity) means - 75% defence and tenacity for 2 turns.

It's not all about debuffs or buffs. It's about strategy. And you're overlooking it.

Good that Bastila will give defense bonus anyway. Basically the defense loss won't be that drastic, same for tenacity. It looks somewhat guaranted that JKR will be useless against DR. Without all the buffs and assists the jedi team is crippled, it doesn't matter that they are facing -75 defense, they won't have the damage output.

As a matter of fact, I'd go as far as saying that DR will be unchallenged. Not because it won't have non-jedi counters, his kit does not look as universal as JKR's, but because for every 5 DR there will still be 50 JKRs, waiting for the opportunity to snipe anyone who is not running a mirror team or their darkside counterpart.