So, in preparation for Darth Malgus, I was hoping that having Darth Talon on the team would save the taunting leader from an auto-kill from Commander Ahsoka Tano with her unique. But I just saw someone testing out that theory against a Darth Revan team, and CAT killed Darth Revan, and Talon did not save him.Is this an error? Is Darth Talon not supposed to be able to save people from Commander Ahsoka Tano so as to make a Conquest character more powerful than a Marquee character? And if so, maybe we should get that added to the ability's description? Or should Talon be able to save a leader from CAT? And if so, can we get that fixed?

If you look at the mechanics, it's one of these "drop below 1 health" deals. The same problem in the wording occurs with Qui-Gon's omicron. It says "cannot be defeated," but both allow instakills. I think this is intended, but both should definitely be worded more like Revan's Savior.

It is not an error and it working as intended.If you look at the mechanics for any destroy effect, you can see they were updated to remove the hidden marker that Talon places on the leader that triggers her savor ability.

I see. And Talon isn't worded to be "when reduced to 1% health" like JKR. And while it's good to see the code and know that CAT is working as intended, it would be nice if the wording in the game itself reflected this. So thank you for showing me that this is working correctly, but to anyone from CG who might be seeing this, maybe consider rewording Talon and/or CAT to prevent anyone from making a mistake if they don't know where to look up the coding, etc?

Well I mean it’s not like they said Malgus would counter JMK Cat in GAC so I don’t see why it’s a problem that cat will kill him.

"SemiGod;c-2357108" wrote:Well I mean it’s not like they said Malgus would counter JMK Cat in GAC so I don’t see why it’s a problem that cat will kill him. He might be able to do so, but not worth all the move around you have to do in my opinionFirst, you'll need the first special omicron and leader omicron of Malgus, then, Malak has to be the second fastest on the team (first one being Malgus) and everyone has to be faster than CAT (this is not that hard to accomplish tbh, with all the speed bonuses Malgus will grant)Malgus shock (can't be resisted) on GK, Malak dispel taunt, DR can then target JMK and spread fear around, you just need to be controlling CAT from now onI think it's very possible to create a sith empire counter against JMK + CAT

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crzydroid
Retired Hero
3 years ago
If you look at the mechanics, it's one of these "drop below 1 health" deals. The same problem in the wording occurs with Qui-Gon's omicron. It says "cannot be defeated," but both allow instakills. I think this is intended, but both should definitely be worded more like Revan's Savior.
EnigmaPotatoes
New Spectator
3 years ago

It is not an error and it working as intended.

If you look at the mechanics for any destroy effect, you can see they were updated to remove the hidden marker that Talon places on the leader that triggers her savor ability.
BattleFries
Rising Novice
3 years ago
I see. And Talon isn't worded to be "when reduced to 1% health" like JKR. And while it's good to see the code and know that CAT is working as intended, it would be nice if the wording in the game itself reflected this. So thank you for showing me that this is working correctly, but to anyone from CG who might be seeing this, maybe consider rewording Talon and/or CAT to prevent anyone from making a mistake if they don't know where to look up the coding, etc?
111Deep
3 years ago
Well I mean it’s not like they said Malgus would counter JMK Cat in GAC so I don’t see why it’s a problem that cat will kill him.
UC-mariogsh
Rising Rookie
3 years ago
"SemiGod;c-2357108" wrote:
Well I mean it’s not like they said Malgus would counter JMK Cat in GAC so I don’t see why it’s a problem that cat will kill him.

He might be able to do so, but not worth all the move around you have to do in my opinion

First, you'll need the first special omicron and leader omicron of Malgus, then, Malak has to be the second fastest on the team (first one being Malgus) and everyone has to be faster than CAT (this is not that hard to accomplish tbh, with all the speed bonuses Malgus will grant)

Malgus shock (can't be resisted) on GK, Malak dispel taunt, DR can then target JMK and spread fear around, you just need to be controlling CAT from now on

I think it's very possible to create a sith empire counter against JMK + CAT
UC-mariogsh
Rising Rookie
3 years ago
"SemiGod;c-2357131" wrote:
"mariogsh;c-2357118" wrote:
"SemiGod;c-2357108" wrote:
Well I mean it’s not like they said Malgus would counter JMK Cat in GAC so I don’t see why it’s a problem that cat will kill him.

He might be able to do so, but not worth all the move around you have to do in my opinion

First, you'll need the first special omicron and leader omicron of Malgus, then, Malak has to be the second fastest on the team (first one being Malgus) and everyone has to be faster than CAT (this is not that hard to accomplish tbh, with all the speed bonuses Malgus will grant)

Malgus shock (can't be resisted) on GK, Malak dispel taunt, DR can then target JMK and spread fear around, you just need to be controlling CAT from now on

I think it's very possible to create a sith empire counter against JMK + CAT

Idk if I missed something in his kit but wouldn’t GK just evade the move with shock since he’ll have foresight from JMKs HT?

Since even with +140 speed I don’t think he’ll hit >600 speed to outspeed JMK.

You'll be correct, but the thing is, DR unique dispel foresight from the enemies at the start of a SE ally turn, so as long DR is on the team, foresight shouldn't be a problem
BattleFries
Rising Novice
3 years ago
I think the real issue isn't Malgus and CAT, but Talon's unique saying that it will prevent the leader from being defeated, but not actually doing that against CAT and her auto-kill. I just think that it would be nice if either Talon or CAT was re-worded so that the descriptions of their abilities reflected how they actually interact in the game.
Blackninja48
3 years ago
As good as Malgus's kit looks I didn't see any type of immunity to instant death attacks like CAT's. So being that Malgus is a tank and will pretaunt, it seems he will be rendered a non-factor by CAT since he can be immediately targeted and erased, or did I miss something?
111Deep
3 years ago
"mariogsh;c-2357118" wrote:
"SemiGod;c-2357108" wrote:
Well I mean it’s not like they said Malgus would counter JMK Cat in GAC so I don’t see why it’s a problem that cat will kill him.

He might be able to do so, but not worth all the move around you have to do in my opinion

First, you'll need the first special omicron and leader omicron of Malgus, then, Malak has to be the second fastest on the team (first one being Malgus) and everyone has to be faster than CAT (this is not that hard to accomplish tbh, with all the speed bonuses Malgus will grant)

Malgus shock (can't be resisted) on GK, Malak dispel taunt, DR can then target JMK and spread fear around, you just need to be controlling CAT from now on

I think it's very possible to create a sith empire counter against JMK + CAT

Idk if I missed something in his kit but wouldn’t GK just evade the move with shock since he’ll have foresight from JMKs HT?

Since even with +140 speed I don’t think he’ll hit >600 speed to outspeed JMK.
111Deep
3 years ago
(Delete, accidentally responded to my msg instead of editing it)