Daze Vs Complex abilities

"Kyno;c-2152805" wrote:

"SerWulfgar;c-2152802" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2152746" wrote:


Daze does not allow youFinalizer to select that unit for an ability that has an assist, therefore a dazed UKR is not a valid target for the basic.

Do you have a source for that claim, Kyno?

I can quote you the literal ingame description for Daze:
"Can't assist, counter attack, or gain bonus Turn Meter."

This does not say a word about being valid or invalid target for certain abilities. If daze really prevents this type of abilities (which semmingly is the case) then it is a bug, or the description needs an update. When it comes to the Finalizer it has minor impact, but the Ghost's Static Jammer ability is somewhat crippled by this phenomenon.

Also, coding a criterium that modifies the list of valid targets based on the ability level seems to be rather difficult to me (I am talking about Play to Strengths). Not impossible but rather difficult, given the record we have here. I wouldnt expect that to happen. A simple description update would eliminate all the confusion. Would be even less work than the "Advantage" buff touch-up which have happened several months ago.

if the target cannot assist, they are not a valid target to assist. that is not a bug, that is the correct action.

not at all, because the blockage comes from the debuff, not the ability. "if daze, not valid target", if the ability has a cleanse, then it would not have this restriction.

if an ability that calls an assist allows you to select a dazed target, and the ability does not have a cleanse then it is a bug and should be reported as such.

If an ability has two components, let's say grant advantage and call to assist, shouldn't you be able to target someone with daze so they can have the advantage part?

I understand it isn't doing it this way, but I don't see why it shouldn't. Daze shouldn't block targeting, it should just block assisting.