Death mark - death trooper

Yep... Then it should be reworked and fixed no? Because it's not logical to stand this situation just for one side.

I know in the overall it will not change the ending of veers VS Nightsisters but it's not fair to receive any different thing if you are filling the requirements ts to apply that debuff

Is defeated means is currently defeated. If the character died and revived it’s not currently defeated. It’s the same for any other revived character, not just zombie.

"Liath;c-1446013" wrote:
Is defeated means is currently defeated. If the character died and revived it’s not currently defeated. It’s the same for any other revived character, not just zombie.

This. It's not just zombie.

There needs to be 4 or less opponents standing to have someone defeated (at that moment).

"Teemto;c-1446010" wrote:
Yep... Then it should be reworked and fixed no? Because it's not logical to stand this situation just for one side.

I know in the overall it will not change the ending of veers VS Nightsisters but it's not fair to receive any different thing if you are filling the requirements ts to apply that debuff

NS team is ruining things, make lot of contradiction between ability one another.

About rework or fix, don't expect it. New NS still consider exclusive chars bcause they can't farm anywhere. My best guess they will only change the ability wording (terminate), to make it right.

- Terminate (DT)
Deal Physical damage to target enemy. If the target is suffering any debuffs, this attack is a guaranteed Critical Hit. If there are any defeated enemies, also inflict Deathmark for 2 turns, which can't be Resisted. Targets defeated by Terminate can't be revived.

- Rampage (Assajj)
When any ally or enemy is defeated, Asajj gains 35% Turn Meter, and, gains 15% Offense, 15% Critical Chance, and 5% Max Health (stacking) until the end of the encounter. Asajj has +15 Speed for each enemy with no buffs.

I think what @Teemto mean, why terminate ability can't do things as describe, meanwhile assajj can.

Let's say we all agree that chars that dead then revive can't consider defeated. But then we back again to previous question, why assajj can stack? There is no defeated char if zombie keep dead and revive.

The character was defeated. It is not currently defeated. One thing happens each time a character dies and stacks. It’s based on the number of defeats that have happened, not the number currently on the field. The other thing happens only if the character is dead at the time of the ability use. There is no contradiction.

(Am I the only person who thinks about Bill Clinton every time this comes up?)

Then the wording for terminate should be fixed for Spanish because it says "si se derrota a un enemigo" what means if an enemy is defeated. In English as I can see now it says if there are enemies defeated.

After seeing this difference I now understand how it works and why DM is not applied. So this should be a fix for the wording in Spanish.

"t0neg0d;c-1446221" wrote:
@leef

I agree... the only thing I can say is... the abilities override in chronological order. Bummer, but oh well

For the record, i dislike zombi quite a bit, but it's working as described nontheless.

"Darthpedro;c-1446340" wrote:

"t0neg0d;c-1446214" wrote:
Terminate:

Targets defeated by terminate can not be revive.

Why does one override the other? Makes ZERO sense.

As similar thing happens with raid han and zeta jyn

Han solos stun on his opening shot can't be resisted

Zeta jyn on her unique and she is immune to stuns

When han solo shoots first zeta jyn will not get stunned

With zombie they should have phrased it in a way that states specifically that that ability is immune to effects that prevent revives

Fun fact heras back up plan also bypasses terminate annihilateand whatever Bobas ability is called

As for Bobas bounty hunters resolve it's the buff itself that can't be dispelled or prevented not the revive if you read it carefully

Jyn isn’t resisting the stun. Resist is a specific game mechanic that doesn’t come into play in that scenario.

That is what zombie’s ability says. “Can’t be prevented” means “can’t be prevented by abilities that would normally prevent it” - in fact that’s the only meaning of “can’t be prevented” that makes any sense. It would have no meaning otherwise.

Technically zombie is already dead so Deathtrooper should inflict death mark first time because there is already one dead lol