Death mark - death trooper

Yea i know it is ridiculous.. but since zombie dead then revive, no other enemy chars dead, enemy chars still count 5. Unless they're down to 4 chars, deathmark can applied.

Yep... Then it should be reworked and fixed no? Because it's not logical to stand this situation just for one side.

I know in the overall it will not change the ending of veers VS Nightsisters but it's not fair to receive any different thing if you are filling the requirements ts to apply that debuff

Is defeated means is currently defeated. If the character died and revived it’s not currently defeated. It’s the same for any other revived character, not just zombie.

Deathmark can only be applied when an enemy is already defeated. If all enemies are active, than deathmark doesn't apply.
Ventress unique applys every time an enemy is defeated, and revives don't apply to that. So, no contradictions.

"Liath;c-1446013" wrote:
Is defeated means is currently defeated. If the character died and revived it’s not currently defeated. It’s the same for any other revived character, not just zombie.

This. It's not just zombie.

There needs to be 4 or less opponents standing to have someone defeated (at that moment).

"Teemto;c-1446010" wrote:
Yep... Then it should be reworked and fixed no? Because it's not logical to stand this situation just for one side.

I know in the overall it will not change the ending of veers VS Nightsisters but it's not fair to receive any different thing if you are filling the requirements ts to apply that debuff

NS team is ruining things, make lot of contradiction between ability one another.

About rework or fix, don't expect it. New NS still consider exclusive chars bcause they can't farm anywhere. My best guess they will only change the ability wording (terminate), to make it right.

"RacerDejak;c-1446018" wrote:

"Teemto;c-1446010" wrote:
Yep... Then it should be reworked and fixed no? Because it's not logical to stand this situation just for one side.

I know in the overall it will not change the ending of veers VS Nightsisters but it's not fair to receive any different thing if you are filling the requirements ts to apply that debuff

NS team is ruining things, make lot of contradiction between ability one another.

About rework or fix, don't expect it. New NS still consider exclusive chars bcause they can't farm anywhere. My best guess they will only change the ability wording (terminate), to make it right.

"RacerDejak;c-1446018" wrote:

"Teemto;c-1446010" wrote:
Yep... Then it should be reworked and fixed no? Because it's not logical to stand this situation just for one side.

I know in the overall it will not change the ending of veers VS Nightsisters but it's not fair to receive any different thing if you are filling the requirements ts to apply that debuff

NS team is ruining things, make lot of contradiction between ability one another.

About rework or fix, don't expect it. New NS still consider exclusive chars bcause they can't farm anywhere. My best guess they will only change the ability wording (terminate), to make it right.

wording in English:
"Deal Physical damage to target enemy. If the target is suffering any debuffs, this attack is a guaranteed Critical Hit. If there are any defeated enemies, also inflict Deathmark for 2 turns, which can't be resisted."
the wording is, specifically, is that enemies have to be defeated when the attack happens in order to apply Deathmark. No contradiction.

- Terminate (DT)
Deal Physical damage to target enemy. If the target is suffering any debuffs, this attack is a guaranteed Critical Hit. If there are any defeated enemies, also inflict Deathmark for 2 turns, which can't be Resisted. Targets defeated by Terminate can't be revived.

- Rampage (Assajj)
When any ally or enemy is defeated, Asajj gains 35% Turn Meter, and, gains 15% Offense, 15% Critical Chance, and 5% Max Health (stacking) until the end of the encounter. Asajj has +15 Speed for each enemy with no buffs.

I think what @Teemto mean, why terminate ability can't do things as describe, meanwhile assajj can.

Let's say we all agree that chars that dead then revive can't consider defeated. But then we back again to previous question, why assajj can stack? There is no defeated char if zombie keep dead and revive.

The character was defeated. It is not currently defeated. One thing happens each time a character dies and stacks. It’s based on the number of defeats that have happened, not the number currently on the field. The other thing happens only if the character is dead at the time of the ability use. There is no contradiction.

(Am I the only person who thinks about Bill Clinton every time this comes up?)

"If there are any defeated enemies"
If they're defeated, they aren't there anymore unless they got revived. So maybe DT's deathmark should only work when there's a revived character on the enemy team ^_^