While I found KRU kit nice overall (lead is great and unique also fits really nicely too) the other abilities seem much more... disapointing.Basic is Ok: tenacity down is nice and also the taunt mechanic, but it hits really really little.Halt should be undispellable: It has no point to have a great two turns stun with all the multiple cleanses there are now in game: Chirrut, rex, ackbar, FOO, kanan, hera, GK, thrawn, finn, talia, bb8... without that is just only a small annoyance.Focused rage hit ok to stun targets, but it recovers health. It should be proteccion just like masked kylo ren. Passive unique recovers health on hit and also halt recovers 10% health, it has no point to recover even more health with this ability.Also, for being a tank with low damage his survivability should be higher (he has low prot and health for being a tank, compared to baze, gk, shoretrooper, sith trooper, etc) and recovering prot with this special would help with that.What do you think?

"Darth_Amarth;c-1396495" wrote:The optimal FO team is KRU, Kylo, SFTP, FOST and FOO. Thanks to FOO, the team can stun everyone like crazy and Gains lots of TM and buffs (that provide Heals if you have KRU Zeta).In my opinion, we need Hux as a viable replacement for FOO that can reduce CDs and cleanse. Also some Offense up will be nice, given the fact that CRIT change/damage and speed are already there.This team can perfectly win against the meta from what I've seen.Damn, why would you post that just when i finally made up my mind to put a zeta on FTP? I was planning to go for kru(L) fost fotp foo thrawn but now i feel i need to consider more...

KRU has a very nice balanced kit imo. And that’s the difference between LS and DS. DS toons are balanced. LS toons are overpowered..

"DeepChu;c-1397207" wrote:That is why he needs something else or FO will never be part of arena meta.There's so much more to the game than arena. You have galactic war, events, raids, heroic raids, territory battles, territory wars, fleet arena... Arena is just one of several co-equal parts of the game. Not everything has to cater to just that one, narrow area.

Hah! Yeah I've had that twice in GW.. From a lowly geared Biggs... Kru hits him like a wet noodle and eventually dies from the repeated counters. Having run both the meta and FO teams and finishing first in arena every day I can say that FO are still some ways off being as viable as several of the other teams currently sitting in top arena. Beating FO is as easy as this.. Stun FOO with zhan. Cls ignore taunt, kill FOO. You win. I could auto most battles using cls meta..FO needs careful strategy ...which don't get me wrong, that's actually quite fun. But knowing that on defense they're a walk in the park kinda ducks. .and drop like a rock comparatively. Heres what i know. In the current era of swgoh if you don't have critical immunity your probably screwed. Either squishy toons need a protection/health boost or damage needs to dialed down. The later will never happen. ..actually neither will.

"lamatoe;c-1398102" wrote:Hah! Yeah I've had that twice in GW.. From a lowly geared Biggs... Kru hits him like a wet noodle and eventually dies from the repeated counters. Having run both the meta and FO teams and finishing first in arena every day I can say that FO are still some ways off being as viable as several of the other teams currently sitting in top arena. Beating FO is as easy as this.. Stun FOO with zhan. Cls ignore taunt, kill FOO. You win. I could auto most battles using cls meta..FO needs careful strategy ...which don't get me wrong, that's actually quite fun. But knowing that on defense they're a walk in the park kinda ducks. .and drop like a rock comparatively. Heres what i know. In the current era of swgoh if you don't have critical immunity your probably screwed. Either squishy toons need a protection/health boost or damage needs to dialed down. The later will never happen. ..actually neither will. Hmm, I’d say you’ve been fighting some crappy FO teams. If you stunned my FOO, my Thrawn would cleanse him next, FOO would give TM to FOST, and it’s business I’d usual. If I happen to be running pure FO, then OG Kylo would be next in line after FOO, and would feed everyone TM. Once FOST and KRU have their taunts up, would you really waste your dispel killing FOO instead of clearing a taunt or hitting FOTP? My point is it doesn’t matter who Zolo attacks first on my team, they are all capable of working as a team of 3 or 4. First Order is still a joke on defense, but if you have them geared and modded correctly, they are capable of beating any team on offense. If you don’t care about having a pure team, get Thrawn in the mix (he’s great with FOO, or replacing him) and they are a top tier team. "Tyrael1701;c-1397492" wrote:I found at G12 he just gets stunned and dies so fast. Against meta, thrawn always fractures him, then cls does his second ability and he dies. I also found Biggs alone can solo him and shut him down. I had multiple matches where these 2 went back and forth until kru was dead and Biggs full health. Kru had 100% counter with taunt, Biggs gains 100% tm after surviving a critical so shoots kru, who counters, Biggs survives a critical and gains 100% tm. Had it happen 4 sepadate times and Biggs just shut him down, so I started avoiding those teams if possible. His basic did no damage to biggs.I find this very strange, as my 4 Star, G11 KRU hasn’t had any trouble with this kind of thing. Sure, he’ll get fractured, but he still heals and definitely has enough hp to win a battle with Biggs. I love it when Biggs picks a fight with KRU or especially FOST, since he will just heal them and kill himself. Naturally, this is assuming you’ve taken out wedge and he’s not calling Zolo on the assists on something. If you link your swgoh.gg profile we may be able to help you figure out the problem, but first thing o would do is make sure he is modded for protection and health first, then offense, crit etc. He doesn’t need potency and in my opinion he doesn’t really need speed with all the TM from FOST and OG Kylo, plus you can always choose him with FOO and/or Thrawn if necessary. Frankly, I consider anything past the pretaunt and his stun to be a bonus, but I guarantee he will do more damage staying alive and countering hard, then going 30 speed faster.

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cronosuriel
New Spectator
7 years ago
"Darth_Amarth;c-1396495" wrote:
The optimal FO team is KRU, Kylo, SFTP, FOST and FOO. Thanks to FOO, the team can stun everyone like crazy and Gains lots of TM and buffs (that provide Heals if you have KRU Zeta).
In my opinion, we need Hux as a viable replacement for FOO that can reduce CDs and cleanse. Also some Offense up will be nice, given the fact that CRIT change/damage and speed are already there.
This team can perfectly win against the meta from what I've seen.

Damn, why would you post that just when i finally made up my mind to put a zeta on FTP? I was planning to go for kru(L) fost fotp foo thrawn but now i feel i need to consider more...
DarthApok
7 years ago
KRU has a very nice balanced kit imo. And that’s the difference between LS and DS. DS toons are balanced. LS toons are overpowered..
NicWester
7 years ago
"DeepChu;c-1397207" wrote:
That is why he needs something else or FO will never be part of arena meta.

There's so much more to the game than arena. You have galactic war, events, raids, heroic raids, territory battles, territory wars, fleet arena... Arena is just one of several co-equal parts of the game. Not everything has to cater to just that one, narrow area.
lamatoe
7 years ago
Hah! Yeah I've had that twice in GW.. From a lowly geared Biggs... Kru hits him like a wet noodle and eventually dies from the repeated counters.
Having run both the meta and FO teams and finishing first in arena every day I can say that FO are still some ways off being as viable as several of the other teams currently sitting in top arena. Beating FO is as easy as this.. Stun FOO with zhan. Cls ignore taunt, kill FOO. You win.
I could auto most battles using cls meta..FO needs careful strategy ...which don't get me wrong, that's actually quite fun. But knowing that on defense they're a walk in the park kinda ducks. .and drop like a rock comparatively.
Heres what i know. In the current era of swgoh if you don't have critical immunity your probably screwed.
Either squishy toons need a protection/health boost or damage needs to dialed down. The later will never happen. ..actually neither will.
tharduskafka
7 years ago
"lamatoe;c-1398102" wrote:
Hah! Yeah I've had that twice in GW.. From a lowly geared Biggs... Kru hits him like a wet noodle and eventually dies from the repeated counters.
Having run both the meta and FO teams and finishing first in arena every day I can say that FO are still some ways off being as viable as several of the other teams currently sitting in top arena. Beating FO is as easy as this.. Stun FOO with zhan. Cls ignore taunt, kill FOO. You win.
I could auto most battles using cls meta..FO needs careful strategy ...which don't get me wrong, that's actually quite fun. But knowing that on defense they're a walk in the park kinda ducks. .and drop like a rock comparatively.
Heres what i know. In the current era of swgoh if you don't have critical immunity your probably screwed.
Either squishy toons need a protection/health boost or damage needs to dialed down. The later will never happen. ..actually neither will.

Hmm, I’d say you’ve been fighting some crappy FO teams. If you stunned my FOO, my Thrawn would cleanse him next, FOO would give TM to FOST, and it’s business I’d usual.

If I happen to be running pure FO, then OG Kylo would be next in line after FOO, and would feed everyone TM. Once FOST and KRU have their taunts up, would you really waste your dispel killing FOO instead of clearing a taunt or hitting FOTP?

My point is it doesn’t matter who Zolo attacks first on my team, they are all capable of working as a team of 3 or 4.

First Order is still a joke on defense, but if you have them geared and modded correctly, they are capable of beating any team on offense. If you don’t care about having a pure team, get Thrawn in the mix (he’s great with FOO, or replacing him) and they are a top tier team.

"Tyrael1701;c-1397492" wrote:
I found at G12 he just gets stunned and dies so fast.
Against meta, thrawn always fractures him, then cls does his second ability and he dies. I also found Biggs alone can solo him and shut him down. I had multiple matches where these 2 went back and forth until kru was dead and Biggs full health. Kru had 100% counter with taunt, Biggs gains 100% tm after surviving a critical so shoots kru, who counters, Biggs survives a critical and gains 100% tm. Had it happen 4 sepadate times and Biggs just shut him down, so I started avoiding those teams if possible. His basic did no damage to biggs.

I find this very strange, as my 4 Star, G11 KRU hasn’t had any trouble with this kind of thing. Sure, he’ll get fractured, but he still heals and definitely has enough hp to win a battle with Biggs. I love it when Biggs picks a fight with KRU or especially FOST, since he will just heal them and kill himself. Naturally, this is assuming you’ve taken out wedge and he’s not calling Zolo on the assists on something.

If you link your swgoh.gg profile we may be able to help you figure out the problem, but first thing o would do is make sure he is modded for protection and health first, then offense, crit etc. He doesn’t need potency and in my opinion he doesn’t really need speed with all the TM from FOST and OG Kylo, plus you can always choose him with FOO and/or Thrawn if necessary. Frankly, I consider anything past the pretaunt and his stun to be a bonus, but I guarantee he will do more damage staying alive and countering hard, then going 30 speed faster.
tharduskafka
7 years ago
"Tyrael1701;c-1398470" wrote:
I was trying to use him as a poor man GK sub since I do not have him yet in a mixed team. Cls lead, r2, kylo, chirrut, raid han. Maybe my other difficulty is zetas? I think everyone else has 1 or 2 on r2, and 1 to 3 on cls. I have been fighting all g12 rebel teams and Biggs hits for way more than kru can heal. Mods might be the other issue. I originally had tenacity, but found it did nothing so switched it out.

Ah, well, there you go. Yeah, he will not work as a sub for GK. In fact, he really needs to be in the lead and zetad for his kit to shine. Once you add the 8% heal from his unique to the 5% health and protection recovery, he is incredibly tough, almost like Zarriss and Gk rolled together ( although obviously not that OP).

Both oils are designed to be used with FO, that's why OG Kylo has the AI use Lash Out over Outrage, in a FO squad, he gives them all TM, so 9 out of 10 times that's what you want.

I can't realy offer any advice for using him outside of FO, I told CubsFanHan thought it was ridiculous to compare KRU to GK. Personally, I'd say FOST is the more adaptable of the two, and I prefer him to GK as my go to tank, although I acknowledge that GK is the best all around. Seriously though, FOST has self cleanse, which means he can't be stopped by buff immunity, he dispels, gives speed down and his zeta let's him call assist on counters. One of the most underrated toons in the game.

You already have KRU and OG Kylo geared, why not just come over to the First Order? One of the most fun factions to use, and totally viable in arena once you have a couple good speed sets.

Here's my team vs the new Rey from earlier today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DScEeXhro4o&list=PLu7vbb3ftXECntrOyVX-OaXvqztPMSC3p
SomeSignNaw
7 years ago
"DeepChu;d-150079" wrote:

What do you think?

You got it right. For some reason devs decided Kylo Ren is/are not a heavy hitter, but rather a (useless) tank.

Soon someone points out Kylo’s Outrage, but try to have the AI use it.
Sacull_Kinslaye
7 years ago
It's just more LS biase. I wish kru had new Rey's kit. It would have made more sense than her having it.
NicWester
7 years ago
Unmasked as leader makes First Order insane. What are you guys talking about? Remember when Droids were great because there was a character with exactly one ability that did nothing else but fill their TM and then win the game?
Dretzle
7 years ago
"NicWester;c-1394559" wrote:
Unmasked as leader makes First Order insane. What are you guys talking about? Remember when Droids were great because there was a character with exactly one ability that did nothing else but fill their TM and then win the game?

This guy gets it. :D Matt is actually very very awesome. Especially his leader ability. He just doesn't have the crew that makes him quite as general as Rey in arena. But he's an "I Win" button in DS TB all the way through phase 6. Put him in TW as defense and you need a dedicated team to take them down, or 8 not-as-powerful teams.