Does Gar Saxon look any good?

I could see good synergy with dooku (especially under zader)

I'm just not sure that his leadership ability is good enough to replace Zader or Palp.

"Thor_Odinson1;1012049" wrote:
I'm just not sure that his leadership ability is good enough to replace Zader or Palp.

But can you imagine palpatine with counter chance? He would be putting shock on everybody and gaining tons of turn meter

50% counter is not that good, hope to see a DS cleanser asap too.
Can be quite good with other speed down chars who have counter (Hi Fives ;) ) !
Full of assists so you might need people a bit tanky to see it work (Vader, Shore, RG, DT).

"Guest;1012057" wrote:
50% counter is not that good, hope to see a DS cleanser asap too.
Can be quite good with other speed down chars who have counter (Hi Fives ;) ) !
Full of assists so you might need people a bit tanky to see it work (Vader, Shore, RG, DT).

I don't know - 50% counter with all of the AoEs flying around in arena might be solid. Especially since many Empire toons have some very nice debuffs on their basic (Vader, DT, Palp, TFP and even RG) - TFP's is sheer damage. Obviously you have to pick just 4 (or less if you want to run something else in there) - but there are some solid choices.

"Nikoms565;1012071" wrote:

"Guest;1012057" wrote:
50% counter is not that good, hope to see a DS cleanser asap too.
Can be quite good with other speed down chars who have counter (Hi Fives ;) ) !
Full of assists so you might need people a bit tanky to see it work (Vader, Shore, RG, DT).

I don't know - 50% counter with all of the AoEs flying around in arena might be solid. Especially since many Empire toons have some very nice debuffs on their basic (Vader, DT, Palp, TFP and even RG) - TFP's is sheer damage. Obviously you have to pick just 4 (or less if you want to run something else in there) - but there are some solid choices.

Yea too bad mauls daze makes his leader ability unviable.

"Ig88isboss;1012078" wrote:

"Nikoms565;1012071" wrote:

"Guest;1012057" wrote:
50% counter is not that good, hope to see a DS cleanser asap too.
Can be quite good with other speed down chars who have counter (Hi Fives ;) ) !
Full of assists so you might need people a bit tanky to see it work (Vader, Shore, RG, DT).

I don't know - 50% counter with all of the AoEs flying around in arena might be solid. Especially since many Empire toons have some very nice debuffs on their basic (Vader, DT, Palp, TFP and even RG) - TFP's is sheer damage. Obviously you have to pick just 4 (or less if you want to run something else in there) - but there are some solid choices.

Yea too bad mauls daze makes his leader ability unviable.

That's why I suggested running one less - Rex or GK to cleanse that daze! ;)

"Nikoms565;1012082" wrote:

"Ig88isboss;1012078" wrote:

"Nikoms565;1012071" wrote:

"Guest;1012057" wrote:
50% counter is not that good, hope to see a DS cleanser asap too.
Can be quite good with other speed down chars who have counter (Hi Fives ;) ) !
Full of assists so you might need people a bit tanky to see it work (Vader, Shore, RG, DT).

I don't know - 50% counter with all of the AoEs flying around in arena might be solid. Especially since many Empire toons have some very nice debuffs on their basic (Vader, DT, Palp, TFP and even RG) - TFP's is sheer damage. Obviously you have to pick just 4 (or less if you want to run something else in there) - but there are some solid choices.

Yea too bad mauls daze makes his leader ability unviable.

That's why I suggested running one less - Rex or GK to cleanse that daze! ;)

"Nikoms565;1012082" wrote:

"Ig88isboss;1012078" wrote:

"Nikoms565;1012071" wrote:

"Guest;1012057" wrote:
50% counter is not that good, hope to see a DS cleanser asap too.
Can be quite good with other speed down chars who have counter (Hi Fives ;) ) !
Full of assists so you might need people a bit tanky to see it work (Vader, Shore, RG, DT).

I don't know - 50% counter with all of the AoEs flying around in arena might be solid. Especially since many Empire toons have some very nice debuffs on their basic (Vader, DT, Palp, TFP and even RG) - TFP's is sheer damage. Obviously you have to pick just 4 (or less if you want to run something else in there) - but there are some solid choices.

Yea too bad mauls daze makes his leader ability unviable.

That's why I suggested running one less - Rex or GK to cleanse that daze! ;)

Too late, nihilus drained your cool downs :worried:

"Ig88isboss;1012086" wrote:

"Nikoms565;1012082" wrote:

"Ig88isboss;1012078" wrote:

"Nikoms565;1012071" wrote:

"Guest;1012057" wrote:
50% counter is not that good, hope to see a DS cleanser asap too.
Can be quite good with other speed down chars who have counter (Hi Fives ;) ) !
Full of assists so you might need people a bit tanky to see it work (Vader, Shore, RG, DT).

I don't know - 50% counter with all of the AoEs flying around in arena might be solid. Especially since many Empire toons have some very nice debuffs on their basic (Vader, DT, Palp, TFP and even RG) - TFP's is sheer damage. Obviously you have to pick just 4 (or less if you want to run something else in there) - but there are some solid choices.

Yea too bad mauls daze makes his leader ability unviable.

That's why I suggested running one less - Rex or GK to cleanse that daze! ;)

"Nikoms565;1012082" wrote:

"Ig88isboss;1012078" wrote:

"Nikoms565;1012071" wrote:

"Guest;1012057" wrote:
50% counter is not that good, hope to see a DS cleanser asap too.
Can be quite good with other speed down chars who have counter (Hi Fives ;) ) !
Full of assists so you might need people a bit tanky to see it work (Vader, Shore, RG, DT).

I don't know - 50% counter with all of the AoEs flying around in arena might be solid. Especially since many Empire toons have some very nice debuffs on their basic (Vader, DT, Palp, TFP and even RG) - TFP's is sheer damage. Obviously you have to pick just 4 (or less if you want to run something else in there) - but there are some solid choices.

Yea too bad mauls daze makes his leader ability unviable.

That's why I suggested running one less - Rex or GK to cleanse that daze! ;)

Too late, nihilus drained your cool downs :worried:

Arena battles last more than one round. I beat whale teams who have SA and Nihilus (who both go before mine) almost every day - and they're both 7*. Sometimes RNG works in your favor, sometimes it doesn't.

Honestly, to have this discussion fairly, we'd have to construct both teams in a realistic and maximized way. For example, with EP's shock & stun, Vader's basic and DT, you could conceivably keep Nihilus from ever annihilating - even if he gets first drop. And keep in mind, Gar himself can throw speed down with his basic (which also assists a counter).

There is a lot more there than I think you are taking into account.

Only Sith think in absolutes.

"Nikoms565;1012111" wrote:

"Ig88isboss;1012086" wrote:

"Nikoms565;1012082" wrote:

"Ig88isboss;1012078" wrote:

"Nikoms565;1012071" wrote:

"Guest;1012057" wrote:
50% counter is not that good, hope to see a DS cleanser asap too.
Can be quite good with other speed down chars who have counter (Hi Fives ;) ) !
Full of assists so you might need people a bit tanky to see it work (Vader, Shore, RG, DT).

I don't know - 50% counter with all of the AoEs flying around in arena might be solid. Especially since many Empire toons have some very nice debuffs on their basic (Vader, DT, Palp, TFP and even RG) - TFP's is sheer damage. Obviously you have to pick just 4 (or less if you want to run something else in there) - but there are some solid choices.

Yea too bad mauls daze makes his leader ability unviable.

That's why I suggested running one less - Rex or GK to cleanse that daze! ;)

"Nikoms565;1012082" wrote:

"Ig88isboss;1012078" wrote:

"Nikoms565;1012071" wrote:

"Guest;1012057" wrote:
50% counter is not that good, hope to see a DS cleanser asap too.
Can be quite good with other speed down chars who have counter (Hi Fives ;) ) !
Full of assists so you might need people a bit tanky to see it work (Vader, Shore, RG, DT).

I don't know - 50% counter with all of the AoEs flying around in arena might be solid. Especially since many Empire toons have some very nice debuffs on their basic (Vader, DT, Palp, TFP and even RG) - TFP's is sheer damage. Obviously you have to pick just 4 (or less if you want to run something else in there) - but there are some solid choices.

Yea too bad mauls daze makes his leader ability unviable.

That's why I suggested running one less - Rex or GK to cleanse that daze! ;)

Too late, nihilus drained your cool downs :worried:

Only Sith think in absolutes.

Perfect :D