Enfys Nest

Had a person like that in my arena. Using gear 7 and 8 characters with gear 12 nest. Its an awful exploit. The weak die from counters leaving nest to keep stacking protection.

Anilliate her?

"Dk_rek;c-1684025" wrote:
Heh at least with nest you have a chance not like in ships where guy buys hounds tooth and becomes immortal sittin on one for A month without figting a single battle. Cant think of any immortal arena teams so theres that

I mean i see what your sayin with zombie but there you wanted like a gear one zombie with neat you still want g12 right just no speed mods

(Just wondering i dont have nest im not rich)

Seriously? Houndstooth again? Give it a rest.

Nest is cake with Nihilus. And a lot of people are still running EP/Traya teams so there's plenty of annihilate to go around. Even without, Nest isn't that tough as long as you know how to battle her. Fracture and TMR are bad ideas. Speed down is a bad idea. Multi-hitters and mass assists are not great either.

Revan's leader ability doesn't just beat Nest, it humiliates her first. Though Revan is a little less accessible at this time compared to Nihilus.

Having to picking a specific character to beat nest is bad design, or at least greedy design. It forces players to buy certain characters in order to win. I understanding making certain characters better against other certain teams but the EF issue goes far beyond that. Anytime you have a team that removes TM, (Vader or Ventress as lead) EF becomes nearly invincible. Or, if your team has stun with basic ability. Some people invest a lot into one or two specific teams because they can't afford to buy and mod every char in this game. And, not everyone has been playing this game for years. Yes, haters, jump on me and defend the poor devs who have to get paid to make the game. I am a product manager and probably understand better than most how a tech business works. EA probably has to pay an f ton in royalties to Disney. My point is the infinite loop that CAN occur with the EF character. GOH purports to avoid infinite loops in the game -- and EF can get into an infinite loop.
All of you who righteously claim that you can bean EF easily are blind to the perspectives of other players in the game with different, more limited character sets. Yes, you're a great player, you figured out EF's weakness, good for you - stick a gold star on your hand. But, when an arena squad can destroy the other 4 characters in an EF squad in less than a min, then spend the next 4 min dealing continual damage to the EF character that never even gets weaker, it is bad design, plain a simple.

I would propose that EF protection up expires after every enemy has completed a turn after it is first triggered, so that EF does not have to take a turn to lose the protection. This also avoids the incentive to keep EF slow (no speed mod), which I have seen can provide an advantage.

Overall, the game has great design; the battle and character development system is one of the best around for this genre. I am only pointing out 1 flaw.

"Dk_rek;c-1684025" wrote:
Heh at least with nest you have a chance not like in ships where guy buys hounds tooth and becomes immortal sittin on one for A month without figting a single battle. Cant think of any immortal arena teams so theres that

I mean i see what your sayin with zombie but there you wanted like a gear one zombie with neat you still want g12 right just no speed mods

(Just wondering i dont have nest im not rich)

Not immortal. Ahsoka wrecks HT and also Chimera ultimate.

Heh at least with nest you have a chance not like in ships where guy buys hounds tooth and becomes immortal sittin on one for A month without figting a single battle. Cant think of any immortal arena teams so theres that

I mean i see what your sayin with zombie but there you wanted like a gear one zombie with neat you still want g12 right just no speed mods

(Just wondering i dont have nest im not rich)

I got heavily insulted when some months ago I suggested that a slow tanky nest could be unbeatable if you don't play nihilus

i hadn't seen that with nest, but that sounds like something the devs would actually address (in a year or so) if people did it frequently. much the same as with nightsister zombie, weaker characters should never be superior to stronger ones.

Beating Nest is old news now unless someone stubbornly insists on using the one tactic she's strongest against - stuns/fracture/tmr.

@Trystan_Spyder disagree that Revan's leader ability "humiliates" nest. With the right modding and leadership ability (Qira) I had some of my most fun (and simultaneously uncomfortable) arena matches ever in this game.

The fun bit was watching nest (towards the end of the battle) on her own and on auto 1 shooting everyone on a Revan team often multiple times because of Jolies annoying revive and winning with a single slice of health but full protection. Uncomfortable because of the pure cheese involved in the tactic didn't sit right especially when shard mates who had just bought revan were asking me to remove mods from nest because they couldn't kill her.

She is a lot less reliable as a counter now since people worked out how to mod bastila and GMY on a Revan team and eventually worked out that the zeta on direct focus was the important one. Still works okay though if you find a Revan and bastila with low potency or a GMY with low offence.

You can also add her to a few other teams (JTR, Traya...) and eek out a win because she adds alot.

@furyousgeorge74 I'm not sure I understood 1 sentence in your post about stuns... Stunning nest is crucial in efficiently beating her, if you stun her she can't counterattack and regain health. The only other good option is healing immunity but then you still take damage from her counters.