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It means if she is on defense, you might land one debuff in a match. If you're attacking, oh say, Ewoks in GAC with her, she'll end up dazed the whole match but still win. :tongue:

There's always a 15% chance of debuffs landing. For the AI, 15% of the time it works, everytime. :wink:

"Whatelse73;c-1957225" wrote:
It means if she is on defense, you might land one debuff in a match. If you're attacking, oh say, Ewoks in GAC with her, she'll end up dazed the whole match but still win. :tongue:

There's always a 15% chance of debuffs landing. For the AI, 15% of the time it works, everytime. :wink:

You should probably read the thread again.

"lladdir;c-1956969" wrote:

"UnbelieverInME;c-1956959" wrote:
No. Essentially there's a base 15% chance it'll get through anyway. And that's if nothing else lowers it in any way.

"Sentia;c-1956963" wrote:

There is a minimum of 15% chance to land debuff unless the unit has the Tenacity up buff.

Ya know, between this and the old Daka potency thread a few days ago, I’m starting to think that the debuffs mechanics are some of the most misunderstood general mechanics in the game.

No, there is not a minimum chance for a debuff to land. There is a base resist chance but no base apply chance. That’s why tenacity up is ‘stronger’ than tenacity down, up completely negate the possibility of landing a debuff (minus unresistable and tenacity down(down and up also cancel each other out)) while down still leaves a 15% chance.

Tenacity down > Tenacity up
Every time I face a Darth Revan team, and HK uses his aoe , I get both tenacity up (from GMY)and tenacity down, if Bastila uses her 2nd ability then you can bet those debuffs stick

"TekkarEdorf;c-1957232" wrote:

"lladdir;c-1956969" wrote:

"UnbelieverInME;c-1956959" wrote:
No. Essentially there's a base 15% chance it'll get through anyway. And that's if nothing else lowers it in any way.

"Sentia;c-1956963" wrote:

There is a minimum of 15% chance to land debuff unless the unit has the Tenacity up buff.

Ya know, between this and the old Daka potency thread a few days ago, I’m starting to think that the debuffs mechanics are some of the most misunderstood general mechanics in the game.

No, there is not a minimum chance for a debuff to land. There is a base resist chance but no base apply chance. That’s why tenacity up is ‘stronger’ than tenacity down, up completely negate the possibility of landing a debuff (minus unresistable and tenacity down(down and up also cancel each other out)) while down still leaves a 15% chance.

Tenacity down > Tenacity up
Every time I face a Darth Revan team, and HK uses his aoe , I get both tenacity up (from GMY)and tenacity down, if Bastila uses her 2nd ability then you can bet those debuffs stick

Yes and? As I pointed out tenacity up and down cancel each other. I was comparing them in terms of their individual effects on debuffs landing not on their interactions with each other.

"Whatelse73;c-1957225" wrote:
There's always a 15% chance of debuffs landing. For the AI, 15% of the time it works, everytime. :wink:

This is false. There is always 15% chance to resist, true, but no 15% base chance to land a debuff.

"UnbelieverInME;c-1956959" wrote:
No. Essentially there's a base 15% chance it'll get through anyway. And that's if nothing else lowers it in any way.

What is "it" and "nothing else"?