Fleet Store - Sun Fac's Ship

"Johnnyreb1977;c-2227907" wrote:
Fleet store is ONLY for zeta mats period.

Off topic.
The question is do you feel its actually 50/50 with FO-TIE.

As for Zetas, I'll just agree to disagree, my Zeta's are coming along fine, even before deciding to farm Sun Fac the coins were going to MAX ships for Shard Currency.

"Schwartzring;d-241559" wrote:

The Reddit has it listed as 50% with FO TIE.

But I feel its more like 80/20 similar to the Sgt / Rex node.

Ah well if you feel it’s more like that it must be true then

"TheEvilestOne;c-2227998" wrote:

"Schwartzring;d-241559" wrote:

The Reddit has it listed as 50% with FO TIE.

But I feel its more like 80/20 similar to the Sgt / Rex node.

Ah well if you feel it’s more like that it must be true then

Sigh, I didn't say it was.

I tracked farm rates for a freaking year just to have data when people complain about low drop rates.

I'm simply asking if anyone has more info or have tracked it in the past.

I've been buying for a couple months, not tracking, just buying, every single day, hitting both GWar & Fleet & I've gone from 130-ish shards to 269 in 2 months.

Meanwhile Spy has gone from 30 shards to 332.
Soldier was 160-ish & is now 328 and I was actively skipping him a lot since he was highest.


The website shows Sun Fac only spawning in 1 of the 3 slots in G-War & I can confirm I've only ever found him there.
He's one of 5 ships in that store & I can confirm I've rarely seen him, not daily, every few days.

Meanwhile the Reddit has 50/50 listed in that node.
At 3 spawns a day I should see him 1-2x a day.
That isn't the case.
I've only managed to buy him every couple/few days.

I can start tracking it as of today, but I came here looking to get any info from the community that might blatantly disagree with the Reddit which short of this 1 node, I've always agreed with the info there.

It worth both ways too, when I was farming FO TIE I found it there all the time & rarely saw Sun's ship back then but didn't mind when it was in my favor :)

Way to be useful btw.

The original link you posted was for Fleet Store, not GW. If all you want is info about Fleet Store, here is the info from the wiki.SWGOH.help page on Fleet Store shipments:



As you can see, FOTF is listed as having a "high" rate & Sun Fac listed as having a "low" rate. I have no reason to disbelieve your 80/20 estimate, but I also have no reason to think it should be anything else. I would never expect 50/50 from their info. I suspect that redditor made a mistake or just collected too little data or something. It's not meant to be equal.

As for GW Store, well, if you prioritize Sun Fac in GW store and keep a stash of GW Tokens that are only used for that ship (so you never miss it for being out of tokens at the time) then you should average about 3 shards per day from GW.

In 2 months (60 days) the average take would be about 190-ish blueprints. You've pulled in about 140 blueprints, so I imagine that you're not always saving tokens to make sure that you can buy the rarest of your 3 purchase priorities whenever it appears. Since you're only 71 blueprints away, that's about 3 more weeks of collecting from GW only, should you go that route.

However, if you like the Fleet Store route, well, I'd expect the 20% drop rate to hold, or thereabouts.

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"MasterSeedy;c-2228019" wrote:
The original link you posted was for Fleet Store, not GW. If all you want is info about Fleet Store, here is the info from the wiki.SWGOH.help page on Fleet Store shipments:

As you can see, FOTF is listed as having a "high" rate & Sun Fac listed as having a "low" rate. I have no reason to disbelieve your 80/20 estimate, but I also have no reason to think it should be anything else. I would never expect 50/50 from their info. I suspect that redditor made a mistake or just collected too little data or something. It's not meant to be equal.

As for GW Store, well, if you prioritize Sun Fac in GW store and keep a stash of GW Tokens that are only used for that ship (so you never miss it for being out of tokens at the time) then you should average about 3 shards per day from GW.

In 2 months (60 days) the average take would be about 190-ish blueprints. You've pulled in about 140 blueprints, so I imagine that you're not always saving tokens to make sure that you can buy the rarest of your 3 purchase priorities whenever it appears. Since you're only 71 blueprints away, that's about 3 more weeks of collecting from GW only, should you go that route.

However, if you like the Fleet Store route, well, I'd expect the 20% drop rate to hold, or thereabouts.

Thanks MS!

I'm not sure why I hadn't seen the Wiki page for the Fleet Store when I was google searching.
I kept finding the Fleet Arena discussions & guides.

Yep, I know the original Link was for the Fleet store.
I found that Reddit to be really useful since it had %'s listed & was based on 2 full months of tracking.

Sadly if you think about it, 2 months is only 180 "rotations" so agreed its not the biggest pool of data.
And like I said, I always found it to be accurate to what I've seen in that store when farming over the last 22 months.
This Sun Fac issue (And FO TIE in same node) is the one exception for that data.

Between the Wiki/GWar & Reddit/Fleet I had basic data that seemed mostly correct.

Its nice to see the Wiki confirms there is a different relation of High/Low between them.

As for location, I've been farming both, & how I usually do it is don't purchase anything at Midnight, 6AM unless it was a GEO & don't blow out excess coins for the day till the 6PM rotation.
So no, I don't usually run out, very rare actually. I normally will roll a "purchase" amount of 400+ tokens into the next day actually.
Ditto fleet, I'll usually only go for the rarest ships at Noon & save everything for 6PM/9PM rotations right around payout time so I don't run out.

If I assume both now are 20% each, GWar is 1/5 ships, Fleet maybe being 80/20 like the Rex node, it gives 7 chances a day for that 1/5-20% shot. Not surprising to miss entire days or 2.

Not much different than going 1/10 on a gear node instead of 2/10.

It was the "Base 50/50" on Reddit that was throwing me off & making me expect more

It would be great if Wiki had the actual %'s listed instead of High/Avg/Low.

"KausDebonair;c-2228344" wrote:

"Schwartzring;c-2227993" wrote:

"KausDebonair;c-2227898" wrote:

Today I bought 12 shards of Sun Fac’s ship in the GW store (shard shop currency, but still). The Geos very frequently shown up there.

You just had a HUGE amount of luck to get a ship that ONLY spawns in 1 slot of the 3 show up in 3 of the 4 store rotations that day.


See this snip from the G-War wiki.




The snip shows 5 ships in that slow all with the same spawn rate, so I'm guessing its 20% each.

SOME Geo ships are common, Soldier & Spy sure. Sun Fac, not so much.

Maybe 2 of them were one of the other Geos then, I really didn’t pay THAT close of attention lol.

Point remains, it’s much easier to farm it from the GW store the fleet.