GAC Squads per Division?

I appreciate the link. Very disappointing though. Big change from the original announcement (linked in your link) and the original is still the one I see at the top of the forum board - maybe I am missing the updated one. So at my GP I actually need 1 more team for O and D and will soon need 2 more. This is really bad for people at my level. I know you are trying to force people to expand their rosters and get more characters, but in reality you are forcing people to upgrade single characters that might be able to go small against crap Ds people are forced to set. This actually prevents working on adding more good teams because it just increases GP causing a need for even more teams and falling further behind. I'm sure the higher GPs needed more teams because they have so many characters developed that they never get to use, but there were already to many required at lower levels.

I switched my farming strat for the last several weeks because of this after seeing I would apparently need fewer solid teams rather than several subpar teams - the change should have at least been made more prominent.

This is such a solid well done game from so many aspects (all the guild TW/TB, Arena, raids, mods,etc) but GAC just remains a total fail IMO. And I know you guys are aware that isn't just my opinion.

I'm not sure if you are aware, but that is quite literally the "name of the game". You need to have and stick to a solid development strategy as you build your roster. If you feel you are being forced to focus on this more, then that's actually a good thing, because it would be a rude awakening when you moved up anyway. Also at 2.8, you need 6 and 1, which is the same as you did before.

I would also suggest/caution you from upgrading anyone who doesnt fit your plan, everyone in your general area will be in the same situation and the better planned development will "win the day" in the end.

Honesty calling GAC a total fail, is probably one of the least likely things you will get support of from the player base.

Again, I appreciate you responding and being willing to discuss, but I think you missed my point. You can't have 12 decent teams at my GP and also compete well at arena or be any help to your guild in TW, TB, or raids.
I am very aware that you need to have a Solid development strategy - that is near impossible to have enough characters for GAC if you are trying to do that. The direction GAC pushes is to Not develop your characters to a high level. That doesn't make sense to me from a game play perspective or a business perspective for you guys - it's easy to get 100 characters activated and geared to a low level, particularly after the shard drop increases. It's the high level gear you need gems (aka money) to get.

Literally every other aspect of this game encourages you to have highly developed characters - Arena, TW/TB, Galactic Challenge, raids, Conquest. You can be way better at all of these with a few good teams than 100 not very good but not bad teams. At my GP, you can have a few good teams or you can have several mediocre teams, but you cannot have both.

I may have spoken harshly calling it a total fail and you seem to have taken offense, so I apologize for that if maybe it's your area of work, but you must also see that it is the only aspect of the game that people constantly have a problem with. I don't see it about anything else. I'm just pretty disappointed that you made an announcement that would have made it better from my perspective and then changed the part that applied to me in a much less publicized announcement and actually took in in the other direction.

"shaun51422;c-2275468" wrote:
2.8 GP. Div 8. I was Div 5 before.

Just to be clear. No you were not.

2.8 Mil GP was Division 4.

You passed into the old Division-5 when you hit 2.5 Million GP.

So Division-4 was 6 Teams & 1 Fleet.
The new Division-8 is 6 Teams & 1 Fleet

The new Division-7 that you will hit at 3.1 Million GP is the same GP you would have needed to move from Division-4 up to Division-3.
So literally nothing is has changed w/ GP or brackets from where you were.

How is it you can’t field 12 Teams at 2.8 Million GP?

Subtracting out 800K for a pair of fleets that leaves you with 2 Million for 12 Teams which is 167K per Team.

I don’t have a single team that high & have I have 36 characters at Relic-5+

What is your account GP?

2.8 GP. Div 8. I was Div 5 before.

Yes 6 and 1 looks correct.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/245470/content-update-05-26-2021#latest

This change was more targeted on the fact that the div 1 was super crowded. You going from 5 to 8 with no real change, other than some change in the player pool you will be paired with is it.

"shaun51422;c-2275545" wrote:
Again, I appreciate you responding and being willing to discuss, but I think you missed my point. You can't have 12 decent teams at my GP and also compete well at arena or be any help to your guild in TW, TB, or raids.
I am very aware that you need to have a Solid development strategy - that is near impossible to have enough characters for GAC if you are trying to do that. The direction GAC pushes is to Not develop your characters to a high level. That doesn't make sense to me from a game play perspective or a business perspective for you guys - it's easy to get 100 characters activated and geared to a low level, particularly after the shard drop increases. It's the high level gear you need gems (aka money) to get.

It's not just you, all the players will be in the same area, it's fair. You dont need X # of decent teams, you just need to be on par with the group you are in, which you will be.

You can choose how you want to play the game, and if GAC is that important to you, you can focus there and really push to be the absolute best, but you can also make a good plan and work the plan and work it out along the way.

Sure you may not be able to compete with someone who is using $$ to increase their pace, but that will always be the case to some extent (only one person can be first). Again, that will not be the norm, you will be grouped others in your situation, especially now with the change they made to the groups.

"shaun51422;c-2275545" wrote:


Literally every other aspect of this game encourages you to have highly developed characters - Arena, TW/TB, Galactic Challenge, raids, Conquest. You can be way better at all of these with a few good teams than 100 not very good but not bad teams. At my GP, you can have a few good teams or you can have several mediocre teams, but you cannot have both.

Yes, everything is about progress, and so is this. You can develop, and you will. One this this change did is make it harder to stagnate and slide by. You dont and never have needed the best of everything, but this current change doesnt change anything for you in this moment, same numbers are required.

"shaun51422;c-2275545" wrote:


I may have spoken harshly calling it a total fail and you seem to have taken offense, so I apologize for that if maybe it's your area of work, but you must also see that it is the only aspect of the game that people constantly have a problem with. I don't see it about anything else. I'm just pretty disappointed that you made an announcement that would have made it better from my perspective and then changed the part that applied to me in a much less publicized announcement and actually took in in the other direction.

I dont get offended, I just think that's a big statement to make, and not what I have seen as the general consensus. I am a player and volunteer here, none of this is mine any more than it is yours. There were a few announcements and many discussions around this. It is unfortunate that you didnt see all of that, but these changes were made due to feedback from the players, but I think most of the changes to the plan were about ships and less changed in squads.

I don't have a problem competing - I do pretty well. And I didn't say it wasn't fair either. I would just like to be able to use the Teams I have built in this area instead of having to spread them out like everyone else that levels characters has to do as well. You actually can compete with players that spend any amount of money as well - spending money doesn't get you better players, it just gets you there quicker. Just think it's odd that this is the one and only area of the game that seems to benefit from not leveling characters. I'm not sure on this, but I would bet that when they decided how many teams would compete at a certain level they had not introduced relic levels yet.
Thanks again for answering.

This math above assumes only having 60 characters total in the 2M GP (which is highly unlikely).

It is easy to see how one can have good squads and bad squads being used in the lower divisions of GAC without needing to use much imagination.

My alt is also in Div 8 and the placements are fine. There are some weak teams set by nearly everyone so no one has a distinct advantage. Having a GL under 3M is really the biggest advantage one can muster for GAC in this division.