"DarkHelmet1138;c-2197765" wrote:
"crzydroid;c-2197757" wrote:
"DarkHelmet1138;c-2197753" wrote:
"crzydroid;c-2197748" wrote:
"DarkHelmet1138;c-2197719" wrote:
A variant I use on my main is jtr, bb8, c3po, rex, and hoda. It can get about 60% with only 3po reliced and he's not needed at relics for it. If you have relics you can switch 5s for hoda and solo p1.
I've actually managed a p1 solo with Rex and Fives at g12, and another time I got 95%. My Rex and Fives aren't modded the greatest either. I'd say relics on Rex would certainly help him survive (though sometimes the Fives sacrifice can help here), but if the goal is just to get through the phase and not have just 1 person solo, only 2-3 would need to get the team to g12. Of course there's some zeta investment. But if you have 2-3 top people wanting to invest in clones for GAS anyway, it would be worth it.
I always have my 5s die too soon at g12. I find hoda keeps the team alive and if you only put masters training on 3po, helps reduce Rex's CDs even faster. I get an easy 50% that way consistently and sometimes 60%. I need to take my 5s and rex higher but haven't gotten around to it.
Yeah, I didn't get the whole team to survive into p2..
I actually had my Rex get killed and Fives do the sacrifice to restore him. But to OP, needing 1 person to consistently get a solo is not really a necessity, just need like 3 people to do more than 33.3%. I see your point about another fifth helping lower gear teams survive long enough to do more damage. But Fives is pretty easily obtainable.
I find healers in general to be a must in building most teams until you have the gear to have them survive a run without one. I used to use barris as a 5th in my jtr team until they were strong enough back in the day.
And I agree that 5s is the ideal 5th. But I just haven't gotten it to work without relics. If I had time for more than one try, I'd probably play with it more. But if I miss my window, that's 17mil less and drops me out of the top 10.
That's all fair and I think OP's guild can evaluate what works for them until they can gear the ideal team. My point was A) that a solo is *possible* with Rex/Fives below relic level, although not necessarily consistent, and B)that if they're not caring about placement as much being a new guild just trying to get through it, that just a few people can still run the ideal team and get the guild through p1 even with the optimal team sub-relic, so to detour from farming that team for the sake of an alternate 5th isn't necessary, but of course can be left up to the player.