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ndsnyder
9 years ago

GW mechanics (Complete assumption and guide)

Based on my experiences (and those of other posters) I think GW is working as intended. What is the goal of GW? First of all, it is intended as main credit source. Secondly, it should be the part ...
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nhojanderson
9 years ago
Its not much of an E team but can still take out a toon or two on node 3/4.

About SWGOH Strategy & Tips

Share guides, tips, and tricks for Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes, discuss Arena strats, and help new players get started.22,794 PostsLatest Activity: 8 hours ago
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What is the goal of GW?
First of all, it is intended as main credit source. Secondly, it should be the part of the game where you can adjust your team's tactics and try out how a newly leveled toon is working with others. It is your training ground, basically. And thirdly, it should make you create a deeper rooster.

Well it is a credit source for me and I try different team combinations here, since I can always retreat and adjust.

How GW is built up?
There are 4 parts, each with 3 battles (as you know), where each part is harder than the one before, and of course each fight in a particular part is harder than the previous one in that part. There is one exception, but I'll come to that later.
This doesn't necessarily mean that every of the 12 fights is harder than the previous one.

How does matchmaking work?
This is the least obvious point, and here I have to make some assumptions, so feel free to argue if you have experienced something else.

There are several theories how the teams will be put together:

I also believe that there is a total power cap in GW, which cannot be exceeded. This could be the reason I find always low level white/green geared low star toons on node 12. (mentioned earlier that that there is 1 exception)
When you reset GW for each nod a team will be determined that:
a. Successfully fought that node
b. Fulfills an unknown power curve

How will GW be more balanced?
GW was unbalanced, since the nerf of mods. I could completed it still, but had significantly more difficulties.
Here I have to say, that I currently have a top 15 rooster with a total power of 104.342, and I am an ex-dolphin.
I assume the problem was that mods didn't effected the power of the toons as intended, so everyone had to face harder teams because every team was moded, but their power was lower than in reality. This should be solved with the update of today.

How to complete GW everyday?
A lot of players have written about it and a lot of players ignore those tips.

  • Build at least 3 competitive teams
  • On node 1 start with your weakest (C) team, on node 2 with your second best (B) team, and on node 3 your strongest (A) team. (Your goal is to get them some turn meter so next time they start earlier.)
  • Always try to finish a fight with as much HP and Prot as possible (time your heals) and if possible with reseted cool downs (especially for those abilities you use at the beginning of fights)
  • On node 4 use again team C.
  • There are 2 strategies, that do not differ too much from each other, so chose as you like:

  • If you have difficulties throw in a suicide squad, but bear in mind that if you have fought a team and you go in with a second squad, it will act differently. It will have changed cool downs, but just like you they will have collected turn meter from the previous fight.


    Summary
    All together I think GW fulfills its function, since you get credits, takes some time and is a good testing ground. It is not easy, and don't expect to be able to complete it in the beginning, but if you follow the steps you will see that it works, and the main reason why it is hard for a lot of people, is that they have a very strong top five (mostly their arena teams) and then there is a big gap of power behind it.

    Feel free to disagree with me but please reason it, or prove it, but don't start whining here, start your own GW topic. This one should be helpful and constructive!
    • ","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2016-08-06T11:13:59.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":4,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:4010279_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":841},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"Based on my experiences (and those of other posters) I think GW is working as intended.

    What is the goal of GW?
    First of all, it is intended as main credit source. Secondly, it should be the part of the game where you can adjust your team's tactics and try out how a newly leveled toon is working with others. It is your training ground, basically. And thirdly, it should make you create a deeper rooster.

    Well it is a credit source for me and I try different team combinations here, since I can always retreat and adjust.

    How GW is built up?
    There are 4 parts, each with 3 battles (as you know), where each part is harder than the one before, and of course each fight in a particular part is harder than the previous one in that part. There is one exception, but I'll come to that later.
    This doesn't necessarily mean that every of the 12 fights is harder than the previous one.

    How does matchmaking work?
    This is the least obvious point, and here I have to make some assumptions, so feel free to argue if you have experienced something else.

    There are several theories how the teams will be put together:

    I also believe that there is a total power cap in GW, which cannot be exceeded. This could be the reason I find always low level white/green geared low star toons on node 12. (mentioned earlier that that there is 1 exception)
    When you reset GW for each nod a team will be determined that:
    a. Successfully fought that node
    b. Fulfills an unknown power curve

    How will GW be more balanced?
    GW was unbalanced, since the nerf of mods. I could completed it still, but had significantly more difficulties.
    Here I have to say, that I currently have a top 15 rooster with a total power of 104.342, and I am an ex-dolphin.
    I assume the problem was that mods didn't effected the power of the toons as intended, so everyone had to face harder teams because every team was moded, but their power was lower than in reality. This should be solved with the update of today.

    How to complete GW everyday?
    A lot of players have written about it and a lot of players ignore those tips.

  • Build at least 3 competitive teams
  • On node 1 start with your weakest (C) team, on node 2 with your second best (B) team, and on node 3 your strongest (A) team. (Your goal is to get them some turn meter so next time they start earlier.)
  • Always try to finish a fight with as much HP and Prot as possible (time your heals) and if possible with reseted cool downs (especially for those abilities you use at the beginning of fights)
  • On node 4 use again team C.
  • There are 2 strategies, that do not differ too much from each other, so chose as you like:

  • If you have difficulties throw in a suicide squad, but bear in mind that if you have fought a team and you go in with a second squad, it will act differently. It will have changed cool downs, but just like you they will have collected turn meter from the previous fight.


    Summary
    All together I think GW fulfills its function, since you get credits, takes some time and is a good testing ground. It is not easy, and don't expect to be able to complete it in the beginning, but if you follow the steps you will see that it works, and the main reason why it is hard for a lot of people, is that they have a very strong top five (mostly their arena teams) and then there is a big gap of power behind it.

    Feel free to disagree with me but please reason it, or prove it, but don't start whining here, start your own GW topic. This one should be helpful and constructive!
    • 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