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Han Solo v Han Solo

In a game where both squads have Han Solo, which Han Solo gets to use their "Shoots First" bonus attack first? I assumed it was Speed but I just had a match against a Han Solo of Speed 252 as opposed...
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"Vendi1983;c-2235928" wrote:
It's not about overflow.

If it was legitimately Han v Han on the opening move, with no leadership speed boost then OP's Han should have shot first according to the devs.


It technically IS about overflow. Both get 100% TM at start of battle, the speed difference adds overflow, determining which goes first. So what you say is correct, but its because of overflow. Before overflow was added it was completely RNG which han shot first.

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I assumed it was Speed but I just had a match against a Han Solo of Speed 252 as opposed...","body@stringLength":"442","rawBody":"In a game where both squads have Han Solo, which Han Solo gets to use their \"Shoots First\" bonus attack first?
I assumed it was Speed but I just had a match against a Han Solo of Speed 252 as opposed to my Han's Speed of 255 and his Han got the first bonus attack. Stunned my Han, his Chewbacca joined in, I ended up losing the match as a direct result. And no, he didn't have a Leader who added to Speed.

Is it just random?","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2021-03-11T11:33:27.000Z","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3982647_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1418},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"In a game where both squads have Han Solo, which Han Solo gets to use their \"Shoots First\" bonus attack first?
I assumed it was Speed but I just had a match against a Han Solo of Speed 252 as opposed to my Han's Speed of 255 and his Han got the first bonus attack. Stunned my Han, his Chewbacca joined in, I ended up losing the match as a direct result. And no, he didn't have a Leader who added to Speed.

Is it just random?"},"Conversation:conversation:3982647":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:3982647","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3982647"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2021-03-12T22:16:13.000Z","lastPostTime":"2021-03-12T22:16:13.000Z","unreadReplyCount":24,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3982647":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3982647","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:3982647_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:3982647_1","lastEditTime":"2021-03-11T11:33:27.000Z"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3982653":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:3982653","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3982647"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:222601"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":3982653,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-strategy-and-tips-en"},"subject":"Re: Han Solo v Han Solo","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3982653"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3982647"},"body":"
\"Vendi1983;c-2235928\" wrote:
It's not about overflow.

If it was legitimately Han v Han on the opening move, with no leadership speed boost then OP's Han should have shot first according to the devs.


It technically IS about overflow. Both get 100% TM at start of battle, the speed difference adds overflow, determining which goes first. So what you say is correct, but its because of overflow. Before overflow was added it was completely RNG which han shot first.","body@stringLength":"522","rawBody":"
\"Vendi1983;c-2235928\" wrote:
It's not about overflow.

If it was legitimately Han v Han on the opening move, with no leadership speed boost then OP's Han should have shot first according to the devs.


It technically IS about overflow. Both get 100% TM at start of battle, the speed difference adds overflow, determining which goes first. So what you say is correct, but its because of overflow. Before overflow was added it was completely RNG which han shot 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