Hello all.So I'm seeing an issue when I am playing w/ my new Revan.I have my speed set from mods to have a turn order of Basti, then GMY, then Revan.But for some reason, every other fight or so, when I start out Revan pops up to 2nd & moves before GMY.Anyone have any clue why this would be happening.(I even occasionally see Old Ben jump up & move faster up in 2nd place too, but this is far less often & has been going on pre-Revan joining the team)I don't see anything in anyone's kits that would make the turn order different right off the bat like this.And I'm not seeing Yoda get hit by any TM Reduction, so I'm stumped.I'm assuming its something from the enemy team, but does anyone know of anything between these 3 that would cause sudden TM changes at battle launch?

Most people have Revan attack first...but anyways, Bastila gives Jedi 6% tm on her turn. You didn't post your speeds, so this may be enough to get the three jedi in question to 100% tm at the same time

Well, it seems most people I play against have JKR GMY Bastila/Jolee GK in that order. My arena is CLS so all I care about is smoking around CLS before Revan marks him.

Who are you playing against, what's your first move with Bastila, and what are your speeds? You may want to reconsider your turn order goals anyway. JKR should really be fastest, to get mark off right away and avoid pretaunts. Bastila is naturally slow and you're sacrificing a lot of speed getting her ahead of JKR. GMY should be slow and offense heavy, as he gains a lot of TM on his basic (and should be the one called to assist pretty much every time).

Have you considered the speed bonus jkr gets from jedi and old republic allies? He gets 5+ from each. Bastilla and jolee will give +10 each in total since they are both jedi and old republic

If your bastila is going first then as HK666 pointed out, her unique ability "legendary battle meditation" gives all other allies 3% turn meter (doubled for Jedi).Imagine your bastila has 250 speed. After bonus from Revan's leadership she will be 290 speed (assuming 5 jedi, 3 of which are old republic). This means any jedi allies with a speed greater than (290 x 0.94) - 40 = 232 speed will have an equal chance of being the next to move as they will reach 100% TM when bastila takes a turn. If you wanted to maintain the turn order of Bastila > GMY > Revan with a 250 speed bastila you would need Revan to be 231 speed or less and GMY to be any speed between Revan's and bastila's. Hope that explains why you see the turn orders you do? To caluclate this speed threshold yourself for your team you'll need to take your bastila speed, add the leadership bonus, reduce it by 6% and take off the leadership bonus.More generally though, I would be interested where you heard that bastila should be fastest? You are the 3rd person that's just getting their Revan that I've heard say this in the last few days. Concerned where this strange suggestion is coming from. GBahia03's advice is solid, I would put even more emphasis on the special offense number on GMY and the health on jolee though.P.S. Have you considered the speed bonus jkr gets from jedi and old republic allies? He gets 5+ from each. Bastilla and jolee will give +10 each in total since they are both jedi and old republicThis is irrelevant as all jedi and OR allies receive the exact same speed boost from the leadership so wont change the turn order.

Help Needed - Jedi Revan turn order

djohns2000
6 years ago
Most people have Revan attack first...

but anyways, Bastila gives Jedi 6% tm on her turn. You didn't post your speeds, so this may be enough to get the three jedi in question to 100% tm at the same time
Mephisto_style
6 years ago
Well, it seems most people I play against have JKR GMY Bastila/Jolee GK in that order.

My arena is CLS so all I care about is smoking around CLS before Revan marks him.
chionophobe
6 years ago
Who are you playing against, what's your first move with Bastila, and what are your speeds?

You may want to reconsider your turn order goals anyway. JKR should really be fastest, to get mark off right away and avoid pretaunts. Bastila is naturally slow and you're sacrificing a lot of speed getting her ahead of JKR. GMY should be slow and offense heavy, as he gains a lot of TM on his basic (and should be the one called to assist pretty much every time).
superrsid
Seasoned Newcomer
6 years ago
Have you considered the speed bonus jkr gets from jedi and old republic allies? He gets 5+ from each. Bastilla and jolee will give +10 each in total since they are both jedi and old republic
nilsg960
6 years ago
If your bastila is going first then as HK666 pointed out, her unique ability "legendary battle meditation" gives all other allies 3% turn meter (doubled for Jedi).

Imagine your bastila has 250 speed. After bonus from Revan's leadership she will be 290 speed (assuming 5 jedi, 3 of which are old republic). This means any jedi allies with a speed greater than (290 x 0.94) - 40 = 232 speed will have an equal chance of being the next to move as they will reach 100% TM when bastila takes a turn.

If you wanted to maintain the turn order of Bastila > GMY > Revan with a 250 speed bastila you would need Revan to be 231 speed or less and GMY to be any speed between Revan's and bastila's.

Hope that explains why you see the turn orders you do? To caluclate this speed threshold yourself for your team you'll need to take your bastila speed, add the leadership bonus, reduce it by 6% and take off the leadership bonus.

More generally though, I would be interested where you heard that bastila should be fastest? You are the 3rd person that's just getting their Revan that I've heard say this in the last few days. Concerned where this strange suggestion is coming from. GBahia03's advice is solid, I would put even more emphasis on the special offense number on GMY and the health on jolee though.

P.S.
Have you considered the speed bonus jkr gets from jedi and old republic allies? He gets 5+ from each. Bastilla and jolee will give +10 each in total since they are both jedi and old republic

This is irrelevant as all jedi and OR allies receive the exact same speed boost from the leadership so wont change the turn order.
Schwartzring
Rising Traveler
6 years ago
Sorry all, I guess I wasn't clear on a couple things.

1. Bastila is the Leader for now since I spent too much of my banked Credits & Mats to take Revan straight to 85 w/ 3 Zetas. (I have the Zetas but I got stupid working on NS & Clones & used up a few hundred purples & then didn't have enough to get all Zetas)

2. My speeds are as follows.

Bastilla = 236
Yoda = 228
Revan = 226

3. I had the speeds set the way they did so that Bastilla would Buff (Call Assist) Yoda, & then Yoda would buff the group giving everyone steroids, THEN, Revan would Mark & the entire team would hammer the target with fresh Basti buffs that pushes their Damage through the roof.

With that info in mind, are there any other thoughts on why Revan (Not in Leader Slot) would pick up enough TM to get past Yoda before he Group Buffs?
chionophobe
6 years ago
It's Bastila's legendary battle meditation. You need to slow Revan down a few points. Aim for 221 and see if that works for you.
WisBadgers13
6 years ago
I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about this particular order since it seems you'll be able to zeta JKR's lead in the near future. Once JKR is your lead, as others have said, make sure hes the fastest. The mark is a huge boost out of the gates and in mirror matches should allow you to burn savior by killing the opposing GMY. After that try to ability block Jolee, then start picking off the others.
Schwartzring
Rising Traveler
6 years ago
"chionophile;c-1991224" wrote:
It's Bastila's legendary battle meditation. You need to slow Revan down a few points. Aim for 221 and see if that works for you.

How are you calculating that?

She adds the same TM to each ally, so why would it boost one more than another?
CCyrilS
6 years ago
@Schwartzring I like your avi. Are you a mechwarrior/battletech fan, or did you just like the meme?