How do you get more dmg?

What about the arrow?

Look at their other mods. What primaries do they have on triangle and arrow?

Also, if you're critting a lot, offense isn't necessarily the be-all-end all of damage. Unless you have multiple in-game crit damage bonuses, you can get more damage with a crit damage set and triangle even though the offense stat is lower. Kylo already gives +50% crit damage, so if he's siphoning crit damage as well the offense set might work for him. I'm almost sure the crit damage triangle is better though.

But again, I would consider offense arrow if you're wanting to maximize damage.

An R7 Kylo has 8282 base offense according to swgoh.gg. You have your 15% set and 17% from primaries, so 8282*1.32 = 10932.24. So to get to 11,691 that's almost 800, which mostly tracks with your statement of "over 800" from secondaries.

With an offense triangle and arrow, 8282*1.49 = 12,340.18 with no secondaries. That is assuredly where the extra offense is coming from. You can reach that amount with only swapping out the arrow with the secondaries you have.

Since Kylo has crit damage as part of mastery in addition to the 50% lead, I'd have to run the math on whether you'd rather have crit damage or offense (either for triangle or set). Usually the more offense from mods you have, the more it diminishes the value of the offense set. So I'd have to do the numbers with what you have specifically. But in any case, you almost always want at least the triangle to be crit damage.

You're using a speed primary arrow and a crit dmg primary triangle. Is that it?

"Waqui;c-2204643" wrote:
You're using a speed primary arrow and a crit dmg primary triangle. Is that it?

Xactly!

"crzydroid;c-2204529" wrote:
An R7 Kylo has 8282 base offense according to swgoh.gg. You have your 15% set and 17% from primaries, so 8282*1.32 = 10932.24. So to get to 11,691 that's almost 800, which mostly tracks with your statement of "over 800" from secondaries.

With an offense triangle and arrow, 8282*1.49 = 12,340.18 with no secondaries. That is assuredly where the extra offense is coming from. You can reach that amount with only swapping out the arrow with the secondaries you have.

Since Kylo has crit damage as part of mastery in addition to the 50% lead, I'd have to run the math on whether you'd rather have crit damage or offense (either for triangle or set). Usually the more offense from mods you have, the more it diminishes the value of the offense set. So I'd have to do the numbers with what you have specifically. But in any case, you almost always want at least the triangle to be crit damage.

The triangle ia crit dmg ... and how come ... the more offense from mods dim. the value of offense set?! I don't get it ?

"Antario;c-2204506" wrote:
What about the arrow?

Speed. But I changed it to 8.5 %offense and is getting worse not better. Because my speed arrow has 170 offense on secondaries

"Doni12;c-2204517" wrote:
You need high percent offence since his base is so high. Also, over 800 offence secondaries?? But it’s about percentage

Cross and square have 8.5%offense primary, arrow speed, triangle 42%crit dmg, circle 16%health and diamond defense of course.
On the secondaries I sum up from all the mods over 800 offense besides speed and some health and other sruff .
But that is what I am asking ... so much offense on mods and so dissapointing overall dmg( 11691) and that was comparibt to others who have low offense stats on their secondaries and get over 12k dmg ... ?!?!

"Zvezda;c-2204768" wrote:

"Antario;c-2204506" wrote:
What about the arrow?

Speed. But I changed it to 8.5 %offense and is getting worse not better. Because my speed arrow has 170 offense on secondaries

Are you sure you don't also have a high offense% secondary on that arrow as well? 8.5% of an R7 Kylo should be about 700.

As for your other question, the offense set bonus only multiples against base offense without bonuses from mods, whereas your crit damage will multiply against your total offense. So you get diminishing returns on an offense set the more offense you add. However, there's a similar thing that happens when you add crit damage in game: If your characters can add enough bonuses to crit damage, +0.30 would be a relatively smaller amount and you would then benefit more from the offense set.

Offence vs CD
https://youtu.be/UeVjk01NRDw