How is JKL better than GAS???

"KausDebonair;c-2227901" wrote:

"13jkelly;c-2227883" wrote:

"Jack1210;c-2227345" wrote:

"13jkelly;c-2227102" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2226892" wrote:

"13jkelly;c-2226769" wrote:

For veteran players it was extremely easy to achieve which is what CG designed the event for. GAS on the other hand came when relics just released and really in all honesty most player had to end up relicing some of their units.

I respectfully disagree. You need to relic 9 characters to unlock JKL's event. Those 9 were not needed for another event (except 3PO for GAS, but not at relic level), so veteran players as a whole didn't necessarely had them relic'd. On a personal note, I only had Chewie R1 prior to the event. I unlocked GAS with only 5 characters relic'd (GK, Asaaj, B1, B2, Droideka). So gear-wise, it's harder to unlock JKL

The GAS event was a billion times harder then the JKL event.

This I agree. However, it also was because I tried to use as few gear as possible to pass the event. I guess I would have had an easier time if I had my full Sep droid squad at high relic level, as it was required for JKL.

JKL might better in the movies but we all know CG doesn’t work that way. Otherwise Mace Windu would of been one of the legendaries instead of padme.

If I remember correctly, Padme fought twice in the movies and won each time (Palace and Geonosis). Windu fought twice too (Geonosis and Senate) and lost one. But this is borderline trolling, I confess.

Palme fought against droids mace windu fought against the main Sith Lord. In that fight padme would have died before the other Jedi did.

Sounds like you complain for a nerf the second you cant whale out to beat certain teams. The fact that you previously complained about nerfing GAS and now say hes not good enough is just gold. Read the kits. Figure out mods. Stop complaining. Get gud.

I still uphold my complaint on GAS. CG has always lacked in this one trait and that trait is balance. There is no balance between GAS and malak and no balance between GAS and JKL. These characters should not be one shotting each other. I haven’t even talked about JKL and SLKR. I’ve had matches where SLKR got soloed by JKL cause his health and protection was through the roof. I hit 2 200ks on him and didn’t even scratch him. We are talking about a character that can cause himself to have more health and protection than GLs and more damage. How is that not op? Let him keep the damage and take away the constant max health and protection gain.

What you’re saying is OP is entirely strategy based and not actually OP. Taking JKL out early, if not first, is the strategy. Same with TIE Silencer’s stacking offense. And heal blocking Hounds Tooth. Same with that one Galactic Challenge modifier that lets you stack KRU with over 4 million health. It’s a strategy, if everything required pure brute force then the game wouldn’t be nearly as fun. Nihilus can one-shot GAS and JKL. Does Nihilus need to be nerfed, too?

Nihilus and other characters like him can’t one shot in beginning of the match they have to actually build up to that ability and are really easy to take out. JKL on the other hand takes tons of turns to take out. Only way I’ve been able to beat him is by stacking SLKR siphon as much as possible. Hitting him in the beginning you can’t even see his protection go down with a microscope. And then as soon as he uses he special it is a instant one shot guaranteed every time to my characters.

"Starslayer;c-2227910" wrote:

"13jkelly;c-2227882" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2227136" wrote:

"13jkelly;c-2227102" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2226892" wrote:

"13jkelly;c-2226769" wrote:

For veteran players it was extremely easy to achieve which is what CG designed the event for. GAS on the other hand came when relics just released and really in all honesty most player had to end up relicing some of their units.

I respectfully disagree. You need to relic 9 characters to unlock JKL's event. Those 9 were not needed for another event (except 3PO for GAS, but not at relic level), so veteran players as a whole didn't necessarely had them relic'd. On a personal note, I only had Chewie R1 prior to the event. I unlocked GAS with only 5 characters relic'd (GK, Asaaj, B1, B2, Droideka). So gear-wise, it's harder to unlock JKL

The GAS event was a billion times harder then the JKL event.

This I agree. However, it also was because I tried to use as few gear as possible to pass the event. I guess I would have had an easier time if I had my full Sep droid squad at high relic level, as it was required for JKL.

JKL might better in the movies but we all know CG doesn’t work that way. Otherwise Mace Windu would of been one of the legendaries instead of padme.

If I remember correctly, Padme fought twice in the movies and won each time (Palace and Geonosis). Windu fought twice too (Geonosis and Senate) and lost one. But this is borderline trolling, I confess.

Palme fought against droids mace windu fought against the main Sith Lord. In that fight padme would have died before the other Jedi did.

I guess we'll never know. But for the sake of this fun and pointless debate: in this particular situation, it's highly unlikely that Padme would have died imo. Anakin was here. I daresay that if it would have been Padme instead of Windu that led Palpatine's arrest, Anakin would have saved Padmé and killed Palpatine. Padme is the true legend here, Windu just looks cool but fails to deliver. Just like his character.

Lol bruh mace is so much better than padme can’t even believe you think otherwise. Put mace and padme 1v1 we all know who will win. But honestly it doesn’t matter CG doesn’t go by lore just their wallets.

I'm all for a fun debate, but please bring a counter-argument to the table ^^
About the 1v1 thing: it's a squad battle game, so characters are strong based on what they bring to the team, not who's better inside the octogon. Would you be confortable with CUP stronger than 3PO in the game ?

I’m not taking about mace windu in the game we were talking about Lore. Lore wise mace would beat the crap out of padme. C3po is a support character and in a 1v1 the match would instantly end. I’m talking about characters that are on the same tier. People don’t have to believe there’s a tier that’s fine but there are characters that were made to be better than others.

"Old_Ben12345;c-2227978" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2227910" wrote:
Would you be confortable with CUP stronger than 3PO in the game ?

Hmmm. I daresay an Underworld Police Officer from Coruscant would beat C3PO in a 1v1.

But wait a minute! CUP is just a regular character, but 3PO is journey guide! C3PO coudn't beat anyone in a 1v1, why the heck is he harder to get than CUP? Either CUP needs to be buffed so he is better than C3PO, or 3PO needs to be nerfed so he's worse than CUP.


Disclaimer: This is sarcasm and brings nothing to this conversation. Have a nice day

Edit: So I guess, not everything lines up perfectly, which is part of the fun in this game. Some characters/teams work better in different situations, GAS may lose to JKL but it's all about strategy and taking the right team against the right team.

I have teams that can beat JKL. I’m talking about character vs character. JKL did not need help taking out GAS. The way JKL destroyed GAS was like him taking out rose tico it was so easy. I had to do a lot to get GAS and JKL one shoting him is just insane.

"13jkelly;c-2228067" wrote:

"Old_Ben12345;c-2227978" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2227910" wrote:
Would you be confortable with CUP stronger than 3PO in the game ?

Hmmm. I daresay an Underworld Police Officer from Coruscant would beat C3PO in a 1v1.

But wait a minute! CUP is just a regular character, but 3PO is journey guide! C3PO coudn't beat anyone in a 1v1, why the heck is he harder to get than CUP? Either CUP needs to be buffed so he is better than C3PO, or 3PO needs to be nerfed so he's worse than CUP.


Disclaimer: This is sarcasm and brings nothing to this conversation. Have a nice day

Edit: So I guess, not everything lines up perfectly, which is part of the fun in this game. Some characters/teams work better in different situations, GAS may lose to JKL but it's all about strategy and taking the right team against the right team.

I have teams that can beat JKL. I’m talking about character vs character. JKL did not need help taking out GAS. The way JKL destroyed GAS was like him taking out rose tico it was so easy. I had to do a lot to get GAS and JKL one shoting him is just insane.

Got it, got it. I see how that would be frustrating.

"13jkelly;c-2228067" wrote:

"Old_Ben12345;c-2227978" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2227910" wrote:
Would you be confortable with CUP stronger than 3PO in the game ?

Hmmm. I daresay an Underworld Police Officer from Coruscant would beat C3PO in a 1v1.

But wait a minute! CUP is just a regular character, but 3PO is journey guide! C3PO coudn't beat anyone in a 1v1, why the heck is he harder to get than CUP? Either CUP needs to be buffed so he is better than C3PO, or 3PO needs to be nerfed so he's worse than CUP.


Disclaimer: This is sarcasm and brings nothing to this conversation. Have a nice day

Edit: So I guess, not everything lines up perfectly, which is part of the fun in this game. Some characters/teams work better in different situations, GAS may lose to JKL but it's all about strategy and taking the right team against the right team.

I have teams that can beat JKL. I’m talking about character vs character. JKL did not need help taking out GAS. The way JKL destroyed GAS was like him taking out rose tico it was so easy. I had to do a lot to get GAS and JKL one shoting him is just insane.

You have to do a lot to get JKL.

1v1 gac confirmed!!

"13jkelly;c-2228067" wrote:

"Old_Ben12345;c-2227978" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2227910" wrote:
Would you be confortable with CUP stronger than 3PO in the game ?

Hmmm. I daresay an Underworld Police Officer from Coruscant would beat C3PO in a 1v1.

But wait a minute! CUP is just a regular character, but 3PO is journey guide! C3PO coudn't beat anyone in a 1v1, why the heck is he harder to get than CUP? Either CUP needs to be buffed so he is better than C3PO, or 3PO needs to be nerfed so he's worse than CUP.


Disclaimer: This is sarcasm and brings nothing to this conversation. Have a nice day

Edit: So I guess, not everything lines up perfectly, which is part of the fun in this game. Some characters/teams work better in different situations, GAS may lose to JKL but it's all about strategy and taking the right team against the right team.

I have teams that can beat JKL. I’m talking about character vs character. JKL did not need help taking out GAS. The way JKL destroyed GAS was like him taking out rose tico it was so easy. I had to do a lot to get GAS and JKL one shoting him is just insane.

GAS is quite an investment but so is JKL. 1v1 isn’t a game mode currently available and the 5v5 matchup can go either way depending on mods and strategy. Seems decently balanced to me.

"Konju;c-2228138" wrote:

"13jkelly;c-2228067" wrote:

"Old_Ben12345;c-2227978" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2227910" wrote:
Would you be confortable with CUP stronger than 3PO in the game ?

Hmmm. I daresay an Underworld Police Officer from Coruscant would beat C3PO in a 1v1.

But wait a minute! CUP is just a regular character, but 3PO is journey guide! C3PO coudn't beat anyone in a 1v1, why the heck is he harder to get than CUP? Either CUP needs to be buffed so he is better than C3PO, or 3PO needs to be nerfed so he's worse than CUP.


Disclaimer: This is sarcasm and brings nothing to this conversation. Have a nice day

Edit: So I guess, not everything lines up perfectly, which is part of the fun in this game. Some characters/teams work better in different situations, GAS may lose to JKL but it's all about strategy and taking the right team against the right team.

I have teams that can beat JKL. I’m talking about character vs character. JKL did not need help taking out GAS. The way JKL destroyed GAS was like him taking out rose tico it was so easy. I had to do a lot to get GAS and JKL one shoting him is just insane.

GAS is quite an investment but so is JKL. 1v1 isn’t a game mode currently available and the 5v5 matchup can go either way depending on mods and strategy. Seems decently balanced to me.

To some people "balance" means "I win."

"TVF;c-2228144" wrote:

"Konju;c-2228138" wrote:

"13jkelly;c-2228067" wrote:

"Old_Ben12345;c-2227978" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2227910" wrote:
Would you be confortable with CUP stronger than 3PO in the game ?

Hmmm. I daresay an Underworld Police Officer from Coruscant would beat C3PO in a 1v1.

But wait a minute! CUP is just a regular character, but 3PO is journey guide! C3PO coudn't beat anyone in a 1v1, why the heck is he harder to get than CUP? Either CUP needs to be buffed so he is better than C3PO, or 3PO needs to be nerfed so he's worse than CUP.


Disclaimer: This is sarcasm and brings nothing to this conversation. Have a nice day

Edit: So I guess, not everything lines up perfectly, which is part of the fun in this game. Some characters/teams work better in different situations, GAS may lose to JKL but it's all about strategy and taking the right team against the right team.

I have teams that can beat JKL. I’m talking about character vs character. JKL did not need help taking out GAS. The way JKL destroyed GAS was like him taking out rose tico it was so easy. I had to do a lot to get GAS and JKL one shoting him is just insane.

GAS is quite an investment but so is JKL. 1v1 isn’t a game mode currently available and the 5v5 matchup can go either way depending on mods and strategy. Seems decently balanced to me.

To some people "balance" means "I win."

Too true

"13jkelly;c-2228065" wrote:

"KausDebonair;c-2227901" wrote:

"13jkelly;c-2227883" wrote:

"Jack1210;c-2227345" wrote:

"13jkelly;c-2227102" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2226892" wrote:

"13jkelly;c-2226769" wrote:

For veteran players it was extremely easy to achieve which is what CG designed the event for. GAS on the other hand came when relics just released and really in all honesty most player had to end up relicing some of their units.

I respectfully disagree. You need to relic 9 characters to unlock JKL's event. Those 9 were not needed for another event (except 3PO for GAS, but not at relic level), so veteran players as a whole didn't necessarely had them relic'd. On a personal note, I only had Chewie R1 prior to the event. I unlocked GAS with only 5 characters relic'd (GK, Asaaj, B1, B2, Droideka). So gear-wise, it's harder to unlock JKL

The GAS event was a billion times harder then the JKL event.

This I agree. However, it also was because I tried to use as few gear as possible to pass the event. I guess I would have had an easier time if I had my full Sep droid squad at high relic level, as it was required for JKL.

JKL might better in the movies but we all know CG doesn’t work that way. Otherwise Mace Windu would of been one of the legendaries instead of padme.

If I remember correctly, Padme fought twice in the movies and won each time (Palace and Geonosis). Windu fought twice too (Geonosis and Senate) and lost one. But this is borderline trolling, I confess.

Palme fought against droids mace windu fought against the main Sith Lord. In that fight padme would have died before the other Jedi did.

Sounds like you complain for a nerf the second you cant whale out to beat certain teams. The fact that you previously complained about nerfing GAS and now say hes not good enough is just gold. Read the kits. Figure out mods. Stop complaining. Get gud.

I still uphold my complaint on GAS. CG has always lacked in this one trait and that trait is balance. There is no balance between GAS and malak and no balance between GAS and JKL. These characters should not be one shotting each other. I haven’t even talked about JKL and SLKR. I’ve had matches where SLKR got soloed by JKL cause his health and protection was through the roof. I hit 2 200ks on him and didn’t even scratch him. We are talking about a character that can cause himself to have more health and protection than GLs and more damage. How is that not op? Let him keep the damage and take away the constant max health and protection gain.

What you’re saying is OP is entirely strategy based and not actually OP. Taking JKL out early, if not first, is the strategy. Same with TIE Silencer’s stacking offense. And heal blocking Hounds Tooth. Same with that one Galactic Challenge modifier that lets you stack KRU with over 4 million health. It’s a strategy, if everything required pure brute force then the game wouldn’t be nearly as fun. Nihilus can one-shot GAS and JKL. Does Nihilus need to be nerfed, too?

Nihilus and other characters like him can’t one shot in beginning of the match they have to actually build up to that ability and are really easy to take out. JKL on the other hand takes tons of turns to take out. Only way I’ve been able to beat him is by stacking SLKR siphon as much as possible. Hitting him in the beginning you can’t even see his protection go down with a microscope. And then as soon as he uses he special it is a instant one shot guaranteed every time to my characters.

There are many videos out there where Nihilus can annihilate GAS before any of the GAS/501st squad can take a single turn.

Also, I’m not entirely sure what’s going on with your SLKR, but one opening basic attack from my SLKR takes JKL’s protection down by at least 50-60%.

It’s still a strategy issue, and not an OP issue.