I currently have 7* g9 (need the mk nubian security scanner to get him to g10)I tried him in arena to replace qgj with either 1) OB lead, rey, leia, rg or...2) akbar lead, rey, leia, rg.he is too slow. even with speed mod (only have 19 speed from a receiver lvl 2 mod). now with speed mods on rey's and leias, he gets maybe 1 turn in the entire fight. he also appears to get stunned a lot from rg or daka. the only time I have liked him is with teams that have RG and a stHan.-do other people find him useful on offense for arena? I know the issues of the AI not using the dispel optimally. -does G10 give more tenacity/speed etc. ?-opinions on mods? I was thinking tenacity/speed etc

Tenacity is not worthless...it keeps him from getting stunned as often. Sun Fac shines most when he is taunting and not stunned. He is a monster. And nigh unkillable if your team has a lot of buffs. They are free health for him

Yes, Tenacity is a very good stat for SunFac. You don't want him stunned or ability blocked. You want him countering and giving everybody STD's and removing taunts. I also disagree on the speed point. You don't want him super fast but I think getting him over 130+ is a good thing. I've found that in some matches, especially Old Ben & ST Han matches; his TM can take forever to rebuild after Mind Tricks and the initial Taunt, that you want him to get back up for his next turn ASAP. For my SF mods I think the key ones are his 24% Critical Avoidance stat on his arrow mod (I don't have another speed one), big Tenacity buff on the plus mod, and then 4 speed mods and the plus mod and triangle mod are HP mods for the small HP bonus. He rarely dies because he's hard to crit, has a ton of HP & Prot, and can regent frequently when debuffing.

yeah, with the speed im not really trying/expecting to make him "fast", but when he goes against a phasma or old ben team, he seems like he only rarely gets a relevant 2nd turn. also, when I face daka or RG, seems like he is always stunned and does not get a chance to counter, hence the tenacity idea but im not sure if his total tenacity is just too low against toons that have potency (which I have on my RG) to make it not worth while.my speed idea was to just add ~ 20 speed or so to prevent a 1 of his attacks per 3 of Rey/leiaI had not even considered the crit avoidanceanybody know if the jump from g9 to 10 is "awesome" ... or just more expensive raid gear needed?and thanks for the advice/input

sun fac has been a staple for me. Here's mine.https://i.imgur.com/dWkd1me.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/SgcgU48.jpg

how to make sun fac arena useful?

VeridianShakes
9 years ago
Tenacity is not worthless...it keeps him from getting stunned as often. Sun Fac shines most when he is taunting and not stunned. He is a monster. And nigh unkillable if your team has a lot of buffs. They are free health for him
DarthxJay
9 years ago
Yes, Tenacity is a very good stat for SunFac. You don't want him stunned or ability blocked. You want him countering and giving everybody STD's and removing taunts. I also disagree on the speed point. You don't want him super fast but I think getting him over 130+ is a good thing. I've found that in some matches, especially Old Ben & ST Han matches; his TM can take forever to rebuild after Mind Tricks and the initial Taunt, that you want him to get back up for his next turn ASAP. For my SF mods I think the key ones are his 24% Critical Avoidance stat on his arrow mod (I don't have another speed one), big Tenacity buff on the plus mod, and then 4 speed mods and the plus mod and triangle mod are HP mods for the small HP bonus. He rarely dies because he's hard to crit, has a ton of HP & Prot, and can regent frequently when debuffing.
angrythought
9 years ago
yeah, with the speed im not really trying/expecting to make him "fast", but when he goes against a phasma or old ben team, he seems like he only rarely gets a relevant 2nd turn.

also, when I face daka or RG, seems like he is always stunned and does not get a chance to counter, hence the tenacity idea but im not sure if his total tenacity is just too low against toons that have potency (which I have on my RG) to make it not worth while.

my speed idea was to just add ~ 20 speed or so to prevent a 1 of his attacks per 3 of Rey/leia

I had not even considered the crit avoidance

anybody know if the jump from g9 to 10 is "awesome" ... or just more expensive raid gear needed?

and thanks for the advice/input
OleManBourbon
9 years ago
Crit avoidance is good
xSNAKEMAN
9 years ago
sun fac has been a staple for me. Here's mine.

https://i.imgur.com/dWkd1me.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SgcgU48.jpg
angrythought
9 years ago
snake,

thanks. so i'm guessing the stat boosts are speed and protection and you ignored health? how so much tenacity? I've never seen it as the primary stat before?

any other primary stat you pushed/looked for?
xSNAKEMAN
9 years ago
The cross mod has A tenacity stat and gives 24% tenacity and yea, speed and protection mods for the rest.
DarthxJay
9 years ago
"SNAKEMAN;606637" wrote:
sun fac has been a staple for me. Here's mine.

https://i.imgur.com/dWkd1me.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SgcgU48.jpg

That's a sexy SunFac, very nice. How often does he actually get stunned? What about Old Ben's Mind Tricks, how often does that land. I had gotten my Rex up to 75% Tenacity and Mind Tricks still landed all the time.
xSNAKEMAN
9 years ago
Yea so everyone in my server has a RG on there team so in the beginning I'd be frustrated because he would always get stunned. But once mods came out, he now resists a lot of stuns from RG and old Ben rarely lands both debuffs on sun fac usually offense down or nothing at this high of tenacity.

Edit: so what I've found is you need to be above 80% tenacity for it to matter in arena. So if you can get your Rex to 85% he may be better off. Because at 70% most old bens and RG's are between 40 and 50% potency and since the resist percentage is based off subtracting potency off tenacity and also the fact you can't be lower than a 15% resist chance you need to have high 80's or 90% tenacity for it to show a difference in arena.
DarthxJay
9 years ago
"SNAKEMAN;607258" wrote:
Yea so everyone in my server has a RG on there team so in the beginning I'd be frustrated because he would always get stunned. But once mods came out, he now resists a lot of stuns from RG and old Ben rarely lands both debuffs on sun fac usually offense down or nothing at this high of tenacity.

Edit: so what I've found is you need to be above 80% tenacity for it to matter in arena. So if you can get your Rex to 85% he may be better off. Because at 70% most old bens and RG's are between 40 and 50% potency and since the resist percentage is based off subtracting potency off tenacity and also the fact you can't be lower than a 15% resist chance you need to have high 80's or 90% tenacity for it to show a difference in arena.

Nice, thanks for sharing.