First off let me start by saying I HATE the mod system... I find it hard to understand what is a good mod and what mods suck... When I get a mod it can have anywhere from 3 base speed secondary to 6 base speed secondary and that is mainly the only stat I pay attention to... I farm mods all the time and it is hard for me to understand what a good mod is... when I have the game auto mod my toons it does something totally off the wall and I wish I could understand the whole system better. Add to the fact that People are making programs that access the game and rearrange all your mods with the click of a button and CG is doing nothing to stop these programs or even acknowledge them. What some call a quality of life improvement, I call a ToS violation. Why can CG not make a system to help us with all this and not leave it to handing your account over to a 3rd party and have them go in and mod your toons for you... or have a program store your mod setups with one easy click of the button? I work over 70 hours a week and play this game on the go.... I don't want to spend that down time remodding characters for events then moving mods back before a GAC and TW/TB. This is less like a game and more of a job.

"U235;d-234685" wrote:First off let me start by saying I HATE the mod system... I find it hard to understand what is a good mod and what mods suck... When I get a mod it can have anywhere from 3 base speed secondary to 6 base speed secondary and that is mainly the only stat I pay attention to... I farm mods all the time and it is hard for me to understand what a good mod is... when I have the game auto mod my toons it does something totally off the wall and I wish I could understand the whole system better.It is just you. Like, really just you. Many of us remember the days before mods existed, and that sucked. The ability to do something to your characters to make them better the way you want is the best thing CG ever did. Their auto mod algorithm is garbage. The only thing good about it is the recommended secondary types it tells you to use.

I agree with Mephisto, don’t use the auto mod tool. The in game recommendations, particularly for the primary and secondaries, however are generally good advice.Mod collecting is a funnel. You start out with fairly lax criteria that should get more and more specific over time. Ultimately you are looking for “aligned” mods with good stat rolls; that is to say mods where all 4-5 stats plus the set bonus fit one role (or sometimes a hybrid of two roles) and the value of the stats are toward the high end of what is possible. The more “aligned” the mod, the better it is. The better the stat rolls, the better it is.Alignment would be difficult to set criteria for in game because of the wide variety of characters, but it should be pretty easy to show quality of stat rolls. That would be an interesting QOL update.

"Jarvind;c-2157168" wrote:I'll preface this by saying I don't particularly like mods either. Getting good ones is 100% up to RNG (yes, I know you can buy refreshes to increase your chances, before some wiseass chimes in with that), and in PVP it's very difficult to beat someone who got luckier with mods than you did.One good mod is RNG but a well modded roster is work, farming, sifting developing and assigning to appropriate toons.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2157602" wrote:"Jarvind;c-2157168" wrote:I'll preface this by saying I don't particularly like mods either. Getting good ones is 100% up to RNG (yes, I know you can buy refreshes to increase your chances, before some wiseass chimes in with that), and in PVP it's very difficult to beat someone who got luckier with mods than you did.One good mod is RNG but a well modded roster is work, farming, sifting developing and assigning to appropriate toons.When I see someone with 125+ speed secondaries set while I didn't get a single 25+speed mod for several years of playing it's not about "work, farming, ...", etc. It's simple and pure luck. I mean yes, people who understand how mods work and how mod farming and slicing works will have huge advantage over those who don't understand. But among this people, due to extreme importance of speed and extremely low probability of getting exceptional speed mods, will be players who are lucky and who are not. And sometimes it's all what matters (you either faster than your opponent or lose). Yes, there is rng components in other aspects of the game. But mods is the one where several lucky rolls can give permanent advantage. Hopefully the game seems to be shifting away from single meta without counters on the squad side, so now this isn't that big problem as it was before. Well, at least until we get another pure speed meta. :)

"Hortus;c-2157608" wrote:"Rath_Tarr;c-2157602" wrote:"Jarvind;c-2157168" wrote:I'll preface this by saying I don't particularly like mods either. Getting good ones is 100% up to RNG (yes, I know you can buy refreshes to increase your chances, before some wiseass chimes in with that), and in PVP it's very difficult to beat someone who got luckier with mods than you did.One good mod is RNG but a well modded roster is work, farming, sifting developing and assigning to appropriate toons.When I see someone with 125+ speed secondaries set while I didn't get a single 25+speed mod for several years of playing it's not about "work, farming, ...", etc. It's simple and pure luck. I mean yes, people who understand how mods work and how mod farming and slicing works will have huge advantage over those who don't understand. But among this people, due to extreme importance of speed and extremely low probability of getting exceptional speed mods, will be players who are lucky and who are not. And sometimes it's all what matters (you either faster than your opponent or lose). Yes, there is rng components in other aspects of the game. But mods is the one where several lucky rolls can give permanent advantage. Hopefully the game seems to be shifting away from single meta without counters on the squad side, so now this isn't that big problem as it was before. Well, at least until we get another pure speed meta. :)Have you been refreshing mod energy every single day since it was introduced, without fail? Do you make good choices about what mods to slice? Do you win your GAC rounds so you don't have to farm those slicing mats?Mods are about more than RNG. They are about attempts.

Is the mod system broken or is it just me?

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u235a
5 years ago
"MetaThumper;c-2159920" wrote:
"U235;d-234685" wrote:
First off let me start by saying I HATE the mod system... I find it hard to understand what is a good mod and what mods suck... When I get a mod it can have anywhere from 3 base speed secondary to 6 base speed secondary and that is mainly the only stat I pay attention to... I farm mods all the time and it is hard for me to understand what a good mod is... when I have the game auto mod my toons it does something totally off the wall and I wish I could understand the whole system better. Add to the fact that People are making programs that access the game and rearrange all your mods with the click of a button and CG is doing nothing to stop these programs or even acknowledge them. What some call a quality of life improvement, I call a ToS violation. Why can CG not make a system to help us with all this and not leave it to handing your account over to a 3rd party and have them go in and mod your toons for you... or have a program store your mod setups with one easy click of the button? I work over 70 hours a week and play this game on the go.... I don't want to spend that down time remodding characters for events then moving mods back before a GAC and TW/TB. This is less like a game and more of a job.

Sounds to me like the 10 bucks it costs to get one of these services would be beneficial to you then working them long weeks.

That is the problem... i could buy a service and then have my account banned due to it being against the ToS... 3rd party programs that do mods for you like Hotbot or giving another player access to your account is a clear violation... and I have spent to much money on my account to take that chance.
DaarthBrewer
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
"Mephisto_style;c-2158420" wrote:

Your mod problem is you, man. You don't have a logical and consistent mod farm/slice strategy. At least not a great 1 that works for you if you have this problem.

I agree with that.
I only buy gold +4/5 speed mods and up them.
Only buy +5 speed, and only if the other secondaries match the set.

I only farm slice mats.
I slice all +speed 8 or more mods to max
Every day in 60 seconds.
I never farm new mods with energy.
I slice 6E a lot for my GP

The rest of that is bad advice.
Mephisto_style
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
"DaarthBrewer;c-2195421" wrote:
"Mephisto_style;c-2158420" wrote:

Your mod problem is you, man. You don't have a logical and consistent mod farm/slice strategy. At least not a great 1 that works for you if you have this problem.

I agree with that.
I only buy gold +4/5 speed mods and up them.
Only buy +5 speed, and only if the other secondaries match the set.

I only farm slice mats.
I slice all +speed 8 or more mods to max
Every day in 60 seconds.
I never farm new mods with energy.
I slice 6E a lot for my GP

The rest of that is bad advice.

2 things:
1st, I love it when people make arguments without evidence.
2nd, it wasn't advice; it was what I do. I don't care if you think it is bad, it works for me.

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