Is the Y-wing better than Hound’s Tooth?

"APX_919;c-2009832" wrote:
Long story short, Y-wing at 7 stars > HT at 7 stars in Negotiator fleets. Slightly harder to kill and better reinforcement for GR ships than HT. That said, HT > Y-wing with every other capital ship.

Could be decent with mace due to the amount of valor he gives out, but lack of ul from negotiator will certainly make it taunt less.

The whale at the top of my fleet arena is easier for me to beat now that he uses y-wing bomber. Not sure if it’s just me. I think HT is much better even with Negotiator.

Edit: He runs a 7* Y-wing BTW.

On defense Y-wing may be worse than HT in starting lineup due to Negotiator's AI, at least against HMF attacker. Negotiator uses Republic Protection instead of Mobilize as first move if some of GR ships are badly hurt, and without HT it's much easier to force him do so. And when Mobilize hits on third turn instead of first, the battle is usually much easier for attacker.

"CCyrilS;c-2009215" wrote:

"Gifafi;c-2009157" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-2008826" wrote:

"Gifafi;c-2008741" wrote:
Is this a real question? Why would a 4* ship be better than a maxed ship, especially one of the best ships in the game?

It's not a crazy question. Remember Malak at 5*?

sure, but a free ship isn't really comparable to malak and his requirements

Fine. Remember Bastilla at 4*?

Yes, she definitely replaced a 7* G12 GMY. Oh, wait

"RandomSithLord;c-2010236" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-2009215" wrote:

"Gifafi;c-2009157" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-2008826" wrote:

"Gifafi;c-2008741" wrote:
Is this a real question? Why would a 4* ship be better than a maxed ship, especially one of the best ships in the game?

It's not a crazy question. Remember Malak at 5*?

sure, but a free ship isn't really comparable to malak and his requirements

Fine. Remember Bastilla at 4*?

Yes, she definitely replaced a 7* G12 GMY. Oh, wait

well, as leader yes lol. good ol' gmy's L zeta, we hardly knew ye

Me personally opt out HT with R3 Bossk for 3* y-wing as soon as I get it. Why? First, it was almost the same protection as HT. Second, it gives valor, allowing for Capital ship to go faster. Even if it is destroyed, it gives counterattack to other ships, with is something you cannot ignore

"Gifafi;c-2008741" wrote:
Is this a real question? Why would a 4* ship be better than a maxed ship, especially one of the best ships in the game?

Well the HT was better than most maxed ships at 4*....

"Vinniarth;c-2010424" wrote:
Me personally opt out HT with R3 Bossk for 3* y-wing as soon as I get it. Why? First, it was almost the same protection as HT. Second, it gives valor, allowing for Capital ship to go faster. Even if it is destroyed, it gives counterattack to other ships, with is something you cannot ignore

HT gets TM when allies are hit and it's not taunting. That's one of the best parts of it's kit. Y-wing can't taunt until it takes it's turn or unending loyalty gets triggered. So basically the enemy fleet can just burn down Ahsoka/Fives to start and then let the Y-wing take it's turn and finally taunt. Oh and then the Y-wing's taunt is easily dispelled. Y-wing is a great replacement if you need to save HT for a different fleet in GAC, but it's a better reinforcement than it is a starter in the Negotiator meta.

"Vinniarth;c-2010424" wrote:
Me personally opt out HT with R3 Bossk for 3* y-wing as soon as I get it. Why? First, it was almost the same protection as HT. Second, it gives valor, allowing for Capital ship to go faster. Even if it is destroyed, it gives counterattack to other ships, with is something you cannot ignore

Well it doesn't give valor, but it will get valor from the AoE while HT will not.

ETA2 does give valor though, and he could (and probably eventually will) give it to HT, so that's less of an advantage than it first seems.

I just fought a 6* Negotiator (I have a 5*) and it had a 7* Y-Wing in the starting lineup (in place of HT). I beat it much easier than the HT lineup.

"Nikoms565;c-2010842" wrote:
I just fought a 6* Negotiator (I have a 5*) and it had a 7* Y-Wing in the starting lineup (in place of HT). I beat it much easier than the HT lineup.

Who were the other 2? I ask mainly because I believe the most effective starting 3 with Ywing would feature Ahsoka rather than 5s.