Isolated Ally with Traya

"SoonerJBD;c-1599795" wrote:
Cleansing would be a positive effect. It’s a passive effect, but it still counts.

Even if it is, it’s not out of turn, since the cleanse is supposed to occur at the start of the allies turn.

Cleansing would be a positive effect. It’s a passive effect, but it still counts.

Did they also have Plague?

"crzydroid;c-1599999" wrote:
Did they also have Plague?

No. My arena is mostly mirror matches of Traya, Sion, Nihilus, SiTrooper, and Thrawn. I was very thrown off the when I first realized this. Now I use it to my advantage because I know I can get ability block to stick on whoever I isolate.

It’s probably coded to cleanse before the turn and the game doesn’t realize it’s the same turn.

"Rimzo;c-1600013" wrote:
It’s probably coded to cleanse before the turn and the game doesn’t realize it’s the same turn.

I suspect this is it. An enemy Sion is supposed to taunt if you start the turn with pain. He doesn’t taunt if Traya is there to cleanse pain, which also seems wrong to me, since you still start the turn with pain. I think both of these are bugs.

Also, I still disagree with the concept that losing a debuff should be included in the phrase “gain positive effects”. It’s irrelevant in this particular instance, but it would come into play in other scenarios where a character is cleansed out of turn.

So since Traya does damage to them after the cleanse, I wonder if the ability is considered an attack. Since she can't attack during the Isolated ally's turn it would then be WAI.

"crzydroid;c-1600123" wrote:
So since Traya does damage to them after the cleanse, I wonder if the ability is considered an attack. Since she can't attack during the Isolated ally's turn it would then be WAI.

That seems very unlikely, although that could be tested by seeing if it triggers other attack effects. For example, If it’s an attack, then under a Phasma lead Traya dispelling Sith would have a 20% chance to call an assist. I highly doubt that is the case.

"Bulldog1205;c-1600298" wrote:

"crzydroid;c-1600123" wrote:
So since Traya does damage to them after the cleanse, I wonder if the ability is considered an attack. Since she can't attack during the Isolated ally's turn it would then be WAI.

That seems very unlikely, although that could be tested by seeing if it triggers other attack effects. For example, If it’s an attack, then under a Phasma lead Traya dispelling Sith would have a 20% chance to call an assist. I highly doubt that is the case.

Not necessarily. There are moves that don't call an assist under Ackbar lead because they are considered attacks, even though by the same token, they would also not call assists from Phasma, and devs have stated this behavior as WAI. So I can very well see Traya's unique not triggering something else. In any case, since the cleanse is coming from Traya, it does seem like it is against the spirit of Isolate even if it's the Isolated ally's turn.