Hello everyone, please stay positive! We all love this game, so let's be cool about it. :)So a while back, I nearly quit SWGOH when Negotiator came out and dominated my shard's fleet arena. I had invested so much time (and some money) into my Rebel fleet and just when I made top 5 for my first week, BOOM Negotiators kicked me back out. The timing was awful! I was so mad to have just reached the top and after a few days, a meta shift kicked me out. However, I've since learned how to easily beat those GR & Negotiator fleets in my arena with Rebels. Today I went 4-1 against them, ended the day at #2, but held #1 for most of it. This includes beating relic 7 Kenobi, Anakin and Ahsokas. So, I thought I'd share how to do it because a lot of people felt the same way. As it turns out, winning with Rebels is pretty easy actually, though the play order is counter intuitive. As such, I made this video to share how I and a few others do it. I hope you all enjoy.Here is my standing today after going 4 wins and 1 loss against GR-Negotiator.And here is my guide on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHapfmhtSQ4&feature=youtu.be

How do you lose when you “easily beat”?

"slickdealer;c-2051650" wrote:How do you lose when you “easily beat”?Easily is defined as "without difficulty". You seem to have confused the adverbs easily and always, which means "at all times or on all occasions.". I did not say I "always" win. I said you can still easily win. Yes, something can be easy, but still not work out the way you want.If you watch the full video, you'll see that it was pretty easy to win those 4 matches, especially when compared to the previous struggles I referenced above. You gotta keep things in context. With that said, I will admit that luck is a factor that affects the outcome as HMF's assists are not guaranteed.

I love those hard fighting rebel fleets. They make a nice prey for Malevolence... >:)

You said Cassian takes away unending loyalty so you can kill Anakin. This is untrue, it's a locked buff.

You got the first part of the strategy, but missed the second - which is to make anakin take his bonus turns asap to burn off Unending Loyalty by removing all protection from, and killing, other ships. Then call in cassian once it's gone, removing taunts and stealth, and taking him out. Your battles demonstrate this but it wasn't stated. One of the big reasons neg mirror matches are tough is because Neg dazes anakin, keeping underending loyalty for a lot longer.It's a very relevant video even for players that don't use rebels in arena, as often you'll run up against negotiator on defense in TW and GAC.

Just sharing my guide for Rebel fleets to easily beat Negotiator

mikebpiz
5 years ago
How do you lose when you “easily beat”?
Han_Gerbil
5 years ago
"slickdealer;c-2051650" wrote:
How do you lose when you “easily beat”?

Easily is defined as "without difficulty". You seem to have confused the adverbs easily and always, which means "at all times or on all occasions.". I did not say I "always" win. I said you can still easily win. Yes, something can be easy, but still not work out the way you want.

If you watch the full video, you'll see that it was pretty easy to win those 4 matches, especially when compared to the previous struggles I referenced above. You gotta keep things in context. With that said, I will admit that luck is a factor that affects the outcome as HMF's assists are not guaranteed.
VaexquaGer
5 years ago
I love those hard fighting rebel fleets. They make a nice prey for Malevolence...
>:)
tvsfrink
5 years ago
You said Cassian takes away unending loyalty so you can kill Anakin. This is untrue, it's a locked buff.
braskme
New Spectator
5 years ago
You got the first part of the strategy, but missed the second - which is to make anakin take his bonus turns asap to burn off Unending Loyalty by removing all protection from, and killing, other ships. Then call in cassian once it's gone, removing taunts and stealth, and taking him out. Your battles demonstrate this but it wasn't stated. One of the big reasons neg mirror matches are tough is because Neg dazes anakin, keeping underending loyalty for a lot longer.

It's a very relevant video even for players that don't use rebels in arena, as often you'll run up against negotiator on defense in TW and GAC.
braskme
New Spectator
5 years ago
"TVF;c-2051707" wrote:
"kalidor;c-2051705" wrote:
You got the first part of the strategy, but missed the second - which is to make anakin take his bonus turns asap to burn off Unending Loyalty by removing all protection from, and killing, other ships. Then call in cassian once it's gone, removing taunts and stealth, and taking him out. Your battles demonstrate this but it wasn't stated. One of the big reasons neg mirror matches are tough is because Neg dazes anakin, keeping underending loyalty for a lot longer.

It's a very relevant video even for players that don't use rebels in arena, as often you'll run up against negotiator on defense in TW and GAC.

I only watched the first battle and he called Cassian while Anakin had the locked buff.

Yeah, that's why that battle took so long. There's quite a few other misplays, some of which he calls out, some he doesn't - so a good exercise to the viewer to figure them all out.
braskme
New Spectator
5 years ago
"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2051740" wrote:
Could you elaborate why HT is not a good tank in this strategy?

It can't call HMF to assist, which you need to get anakin on the ropes quickly. In the TW/GAC scenario, it frees HT for other squads.
NicWester
5 years ago
The problem isn't beating Negotiator on offense, the problem is holding onto your gains on defense.
tvsfrink
5 years ago
"NicWester;c-2051788" wrote:
The problem isn't beating Negotiator on offense, the problem is holding onto your gains on defense.

Before I unlocked Mal, I had Rebels with no Bistan, and it was 50/50 on offense depending on number of assists.
Darth_DeVito
5 years ago
"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2051740" wrote:
Could you elaborate why HT is not a good tank in this strategy?

Aside from adding to the assist fireworks, Biggs with a fast Bistan can usually taunt a lot quicker than HT. There's a good chance JKA uses his special and slaps buff immunity on your HT before he gets a turn.

That being said, I wouldn't call this an easy counter by any means. It's the easiest with Home One, but it's very RNG-y. On a bad day, you might need 3-4 tries to take down the JKA + Ahsoka lineup that everyone uses now. You'll onstantly get dazed and slapped with buff and healing immunity and you'll see tank after tank as reinforcement rather than Fives or Plo. First Clone Sarge, then Sun Fac, then Biggs or Y-Wing. Anything to lower your chances of targeting JKA. And it works. Cassian does force all against Sarge and Sun Fac. It's a huge PIA and anything but easy.