Kanan Jarrus is very underrated

"Drepd;c-1169343" wrote:

"JacenRoe;c-1168968" wrote:
If I had unlimited resources I'd love to test either:

A. IGD lead, Kit Fisto, Aayla, Zarris, Kanan.

B. IGD lead, GK, Aayla, Zarris, Kanan

Might not be able to break into the meta, but it might be decent. Probably a meta shift, or faction pass, or new toon from being legit. Just not top notch right now.

I don't understand why you would want a taunter in a counter attack group. if his taunt is up, he would be the only one ever counter attacking unless everyone is aoe'd . defeats the purpose of a counter attack team if no one is counter attacking except Kanan.

Besides the fact that his counter attack chance would be 100% under IGD? There is the fact that every good arena team has one if not several dispellers. A taunt isn't a permanent thing. Taunting currently in arena is a distraction. That's partly why many top arena teams use Baze and GK. It's hard to target attackers or other threats while being bounced between two taunts. In most of my arena battles taunts are dispelled multiple times on both sides.

The idea here is that they keep trying to get an attacker down, but they keep having to cut through two taunters (if you use Kanan, and GK). By the time they cut through a counter attacking tank who is lowering their offense on every counter, you have damaged them pretty well with all of your attacks and counter attacks. Then if they kill him they have to try to cut through tanky counter attackers with already damaged characters.

Anyhow, it might have done well in days of old, but in the modern meta with characters who can daze, and instakill it probably wouldn't hold up.

"Jedi_Reach_;c-1168957" wrote:

"EmeraldZx;c-1168914" wrote:
My opinion is that he's no match for Baze

or GK, the real Jedi tank ;-)

Mace is the real tank and you know it ;)

I've been using him on my Jedi squad because I don't have GK yet...he's very situational. A lot of the time his taunt just gets removed after he only takes a couple hits, and due to his speed you probably won't get his taunt up again until you've already lost other characters. Occasionally though I'll run into a fight where they don't remove his taunt off quickly for whatever reason and do a lot of debuffs so he pretty much just stays at full health the entire time, but this is rare.

Overall though I don't think its his speed alone that makes him garbage...I picked up a bit of speed on mod secondaries for him and run QGJ lead so although he isn't a speedster he's still not all that terrible for a tank...its the lack of auto or pre taunt mechanism that make him second tier. Pretty much all the tanks that lack an auto or pre taunt these days are not very viable it seems.

I figure I'll end up putting crit damage mods on him eventually and trying him out as a secondary tank with GK just to see if it makes for an annoying Jedi squad. Even if that idea is a massive flop I don't mind having put resources into him because I find him very useful for a raid tank at various parts and I'll probably use him for his ship at some point. Overall though if I wanted a tank for my Jedi squad until I get GK its kind of silly but it seems like throwing the resources at RG or Shoretrooper would have been a better option.

If I could add one thing to Kanan it would be he gains a 1 turn taunt when he is called for an assist. I think this would synergize well with Hera and Ezra, but would be a trade off as you'd lose a lot of damage calling in Kanan instead of Hera just calling in Ezra or Ezra calling in JKA or Sabine. It would also have more limited synergy with a lot of other characters that call for random assists.

"Hskull55;c-1170025" wrote:

"Jedi_Reach_;c-1168957" wrote:

"EmeraldZx;c-1168914" wrote:
My opinion is that he's no match for Baze

or GK, the real Jedi tank ;-)

Mace is the real tank and you know it ;)

Plo Koon??

"PowerMaster;c-1171111" wrote:
A tank that counter attacks almost benefits from being slower

Problem is when he is the slowest guy on the field so he is the last one to move...you might lose one of your damage dealers in the initial wave of attacks due to lack of taunt, and if not, if you taunt on his first turn his taunt will probably get debuffed before he even gets a second turn, then you have to wait for a 3/4 turn cooldown just to get another taunt up, which just means in a lot of fights before Kanan even gets a second chance at taunting most of your opponents characters have probably already moved 5-6 times.

Kanan's kit isn't all that terrible on paper...its just in practice tanks are really only useful when you have taunt up and he tends to have a terrible uptime on his taunt compared to every tank with a pre or auto taunt mechanism. While Kanan is not taunting he is effectively a gimped version of Aayla.

I've been playing with this team in GW. Hera (L), Kanan, Chaze, and DN. It's fun.

"First_but_66_Order;c-1171361" wrote:

"Hskull55;c-1170025" wrote:

"Jedi_Reach_;c-1168957" wrote:

"EmeraldZx;c-1168914" wrote:
My opinion is that he's no match for Baze

or GK, the real Jedi tank ;-)

Mace is the real tank and you know it ;)

Plo Koon??

Plo koon is a support character, no?

"Killbot5000;d-120565" wrote:
He's a good tank.

Pros-
Removes buffs from enemy.
Grants enemies offense down.
Grants allies protection.
Grants himself protection
Cleanses de-Buffs from allies
Decent counter chance
Cleanses de-buffs from self
25% health recovery of he suffers a de-buff
High health and protection.

Cons-
Slow
Low damage

So, in my opinion, he's one of the better tanks in the game.

Opinions?

Hes overthrown by auto taunters like STrooper, RG, GK, and obviously Baze, and other taunters like Shore are more viable, with a better kit. His kit is completely awful, and has an absurdly low damage output.

"Hskull55;c-1171468" wrote:

"First_but_66_Order;c-1171361" wrote:

"Hskull55;c-1170025" wrote:

"Jedi_Reach_;c-1168957" wrote:

"EmeraldZx;c-1168914" wrote:
My opinion is that he's no match for Baze

or GK, the real Jedi tank ;-)

Mace is the real tank and you know it ;)

Plo Koon??

Plo koon is a support character, no?

I dont know, it says he is a tank, but with jedi, who knows?
https://swgoh.gg/characters/plo-koon/