I need help guys! I want to return to a DS team and I have been having mixed results - I am mainly struggling against JTR teams - I just don't seem to be able to beat them consistently - I don't know if it is my team composition or what, I have the following arena-ready characters available: - zzVader: G12 - zPalps: G12 (Zeta on leader) - zzThrawn: G12 - Shore: G12 - Tarkin: G12 - Death Trooper: G12 - Nihlus: G12 - TFP: G12 - KRU: G12 - Starck: 7* Nearly G12I have pretty strong mods and I can have mods to make a character at +133, +121 & +114. I also have 1x Zeta ready to use.I have tried the following teams with varying degrees of success: - Palps(L), Vader, Thrawn, Shore & Nihlus - Palps(L), Vader, Thrawn, Shore & Starck - Palps(L), Vader, Thrawn, Shore & KRU - Palps (L), Vader, Thrawn, Shore & TarkinAll 4 of these sempt to hold OK but my offence was so hit and miss - I am winning maybe 50% max against JTR teams. So at the moment, I have switched back to my Ackbar, CLS, Han, Thrawn, R2 combo and I win 99% of the battles AND barely drop out of top 25 - I really want to use a DS team because i enjoy them more, but unless I find a better team combo I have no incentive to switch from Ackbar.So I have some questions:1.From the CHARACTERS THAT I HAVE what is the best team combo?2. Who should I place a Zeta on next3. How should I mod said new team i.e. who should have the +133, +121 & +114 speeds?4. How should I use this team against JTR teamsI do NOT have GK - I am at 95/145 to unlock so maybe a month away yet. I do NOT have Krenic either only at 3* low gear. I do NOT have Wampa either - I am working on Hermit Yoda still.Any advice is appreciated!

"TurgonGW;c-1468333" wrote:Thanks for the advice guys, what about the Zeta I have saved up? Palps Unique? Nihlus Unique? Tarkin Unique?Palps unique. The extra protection makes a HUGE difference. Also, while the extra 5% max might seem silly, with Thrawn there to boost his protection, it can help later in the battle.

And if no one gets shut down the best toon to tm swap with is tarkin.He will aoe debuff then drop tm making your whole squad go first sometimes twice depending on stuns.Just to add.You should be aiming for IPD as your 5th if you can. The aoe dispel/target lock shuts down all teams.

Currently he isn't modded optimally. I plan on giving him my GK mods which are a healthy dose of health, protection, and speed. Speed arrow as well. All equally important. He doesn't need potency as tenacity down lands automatically and his stun does as wel. He will have advantage often enough so don't worry about crit but he doesn't really do enough damage to make crit damage worth it so I build him tanky and fast.

"Mobewan;c-1468797" wrote:@DedrickRogue jtr swipe and r2 stun happen alot more than thrawn can tm swap. Furthermore, many jtr run thrawn as well.At least if it's gk, he still gives crit immunity if he's incapacitated.Ive seen both being used, and gk is defititely harder to deal with.If R2 wants to use a basic on shore instead of stealthing turn 1, more power to him. It’s certainly not going to happen on D though, and is a pretty terrible choice. If no other buffs touch him, Shore can Regroup every other turn. That’s not quite GK picking up taunt constantly, but it’s certainly not “a sitting duck for 4 turns.”Plus he feeds Empire TM, has a group heal built into his taunt, passive self-heal, and also spreads Crit Immunity. I’m not arguing that GK can’t be effective in Palp-Vader squads, I’m disagreeing with this....."Mobewan;c-1468666" wrote:Despite his pretaunt, shore is too easy to shut down.Dispel his taunt or stun him and EP is a sitting duck for 4 turns....because it is factually incorrect. Shore is a great tank, probably the best overal DS tank. GK is a great tank, probably the best overal LS tank. Against certain opponents GK might be better in that squad, it’s a testament to his kit that he can even be dropped into that squad and do well; but he’s certainly not better vs everyone, and much like GK he brings things to the table that the other can’t do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYGckzBdxiEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PyATvHm4_ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LabOqjW0Iec&t=16shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSdluaFbkCc&t=3sWell, I really enjoy Tarkin. Gives me a lot of control and works against every team.

Looking for Palps/Vader/DS Arena advice

TurgonGW
7 years ago
"Olddumper;c-1468345" wrote:
"Peer;c-1468319" wrote:

Your +133 should be put on Palp, +114 on Vader and +121 on Thrawn. In my opinion That is a solid turn order that allows for some flexibility. If Thrawn is fastest you can switch TM with Vader to get his show rolling or do something else in case of necessity.

This is nonsense mod advice. You need to post your gg link though so we can see your mods. I'm assuming most include speed sets but we need to see primaries.

Here you go:

https://swgoh.gg/u/turgongw/
Sacull_Kinslaye
7 years ago
Since you already have shore then I would recommend you use him. That would save you a zeta cause I think to use KRU it is needed. Shore is also empire so you get bonuses from him and he'll get a huge boost from ep. I happened to already have kru ready but not shore.
olddumper
7 years ago
"TurgonGW;c-1468553" wrote:
"Olddumper;c-1468345" wrote:
"Peer;c-1468319" wrote:

Your +133 should be put on Palp, +114 on Vader and +121 on Thrawn. In my opinion That is a solid turn order that allows for some flexibility. If Thrawn is fastest you can switch TM with Vader to get his show rolling or do something else in case of necessity.

This is nonsense mod advice. You need to post your gg link though so we can see your mods. I'm assuming most include speed sets but we need to see primaries.

Here you go:

https://swgoh.gg/u/turgongw/

Thanks. I'll take a look at it tonight and get back to you. Definitely some things to look at seeing as Thrawn is weareing a potency cross.
chrlo999
7 years ago
I’ve noticed when facing ep squads with DN in it’s not just fastest Vader wins if DN has his unique zetaed.
Your Vader will go twice and grant their team 5% tm and it ends up being a RNG fest depending on the speed of every toon.
mobewan0527
7 years ago
Despite his pretaunt, shore is too easy to shut down.
Dispel his taunt or stun him and EP is a sitting duck for 4 turns.
I think he would be much better with another tank.

EP unique and DN unique are very important.
EP unique will keep him alive a bit longer.
DN unique will prevent jtr cooldown reductions greatly.
TurgonGW
7 years ago

"Mobewan;c-1468666" wrote:
Despite his pretaunt, shore is too easy to shut down.
Dispel his taunt or stun him and EP is a sitting duck for 4 turns.
I think he would be much better with another tank.

EP unique and DN unique are very important.
EP unique will keep him alive a bit longer.
DN unique will prevent jtr cooldown reductions greatly.

Could KRU not be a better option then?
sainte5
7 years ago
@Sacull_Kinslayer What is your feedback on KRU with this team so far? I'm running Palp, DN, Vader, Thrawn, and SiT/GK but I'd be interested to hear how KRU stacks up against SiT and GK...
Sacull_Kinslaye
7 years ago
Kru can keep gaining taunt so that is his advantage over shore. Shore has a heal and crit immunity. If you run Thrawn that helps a lot to keep the tank cleansed so they can taunt. Shore benefits from all bonus tm though so he will go much more often than kru. It's about equal imo and depends on what you've already got, what you prefer, and how your arena plays out. If I had to farm 1 from 0 shards and zetas weren't an issue it would be Kru. If zetas are an issue it would be shore. Unfortunately GK is still better than both except in a mirror match.
mobewan0527
7 years ago
@TurgonGW
Kru might work instead of shore
Kru might work along side shore.

His kit is good and he was annoying when my shardmate used him on a FO team a while back, but i dont know if I'd gear him to 12 to test out that theory
Sacull_Kinslaye
7 years ago
"Dryff;c-1468669" wrote:
@Sacull_Kinslayer What is your feedback on KRU with this team so far? I'm running Palp, DN, Vader, Thrawn, and SiT/GK but I'd be interested to hear how KRU stacks up against SiT and GK...

It's still early but I like kru. Mainly cause he debuffs on basic and can keep gaining taunt easily. plus his dispel/stun is soooooo useful! But he requires a zeta and SiT/sht don't. And they both get the empire bonuses. But I'm leaning towards kru as my DS tank.

And... It's Kylo. The answer is always Kylo.

Edit: unfortunately GK is still the best tank in the game. However in a mirror match he is a huge disadvantage. Another reason I changed to kru. Plus... I just prefer DS. KRU should have been the DS GK.