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Astro_Ortsa's avatar
Astro_Ortsa
5 years ago

Merciless Vader OP?





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Hi everyone,
I was wondering if you all could help me wrap my head around something real quick.
This guy's Vader soloed my entire team. If his Vader is at 215 speed under a zPalpatine lead and my Revan is at 252, my F. Bastila is at 232, and my Marauder is at 226, why is that his Vader went first before 3/5th of my time?
I used my daily arena allotment to try to beat him just to see if maybe RNG was at play here, but 4/4 times he went first. I know Merciless gives him an extra turn, I know defeating an enemy with culling blade gives him an extra turn, and I know a high or decently high potency Palpatine secures the win, but I don't get it.. I thought this game's motto was "speed is king" yet a significantly slower Vader (215), Palpatine lead (228), and Thrawn (215) mopped the floor with my high speed Sith Empire team.
  • ChristophIV's avatar
    ChristophIV
    Hero+
    5 years ago
    He's getting +48 speed from his own team, plus an extra 40 if all your team are Jedi (total +88 for 303 overall speed) from his unique "No Escape".

    To add, as Vader and EP are Empire AND Sith they provide +16 speed each. Same if you have Ezra or Kanan on you JKR team, because they also have the Rebel tag.
  • Astro_Ortsa's avatar
    Astro_Ortsa
    5 years ago
    "UdalCuain;c-2135368" wrote:
    He's getting +48 speed from his own team, plus an extra 40 if all your team are Jedi (total +88 for 303 overall speed) from his unique "No Escape".

    To add, as Vader and EP are Empire AND Sith they provide +16 speed each. Same if you have Ezra or Kanan on you JKR team, because they also have the Rebel tag.


    Ah! That's what it is. I forgot about his unique. Oops!

  • Nikoms565's avatar
    Nikoms565
    5 years ago

    This is from a November 2015 shard. Git gud (and no, the guy in 15 is NOT a friend of the shard chat.)
  • Nikoms565's avatar
    Nikoms565
    5 years ago
    Oh....and you're totally running the wrong comp.Full 7 stars and G11 is much too high....


  • tvsfrink's avatar
    tvsfrink
    5 years ago
    "Nikoms565;c-2136883" wrote:

    This is from a November 2015 shard.


    So an old and tired shard.
  • tvsfrink's avatar
    tvsfrink
    5 years ago
    "ShannonP35;c-2136186" wrote:
    Vader is OP! My Vader is relic 7. He one shots everybody. I run a complete Empire team but BSF with her my Vader has 100% Potency and Tenacity.Im rank 63 Im sure i can get top 50.


    I'm reasonably sure top 70 doesn't make him OP.
  • Nikoms565's avatar
    Nikoms565
    5 years ago
    "TVF;c-2136904" wrote:
    "Nikoms565;c-2136883" wrote:

    This is from a November 2015 shard.


    So an old and tired shard.


    Takes one to know one is the saying....
  • dwinkelm's avatar
    dwinkelm
    5 years ago
    "Nikoms565;c-2136894" wrote:
    Oh....and you're totally running the wrong comp.Full 7 stars and G11 is much too high....




    What kind of mod comps are you running on those toons? Looks like a fun team

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