When running on auto under veers lead, Moff Gideon is prioritizing Darksaber lunge over Control the situation. This seems like a terrible ai choice given that using control the situation first is one of the main reasons to use Gideon in a team.

I'll never understand the "don't use him on defense" type posts that come with so many legitimate complaints. The OP isn't asking for recommendations on how to avoid the issue. He's requesting the issue be fixed. I'm not sure people realize how degrading it is to essentially just tell someone their issue isn't important.

"Bulldog1205;c-2237846" wrote:I'll never understand the "don't use him on defense" type posts that come with so many legitimate complaints. The OP isn't asking for recommendations on how to avoid the issue. He's requesting the issue be fixed. I'm not sure people realize how degrading it is to essentially just tell someone their issue isn't important. But what if the design intent of the characters AI is for him to be used on offense and to not make him "too powerful" as his is only a marquee character.

"Bulldog1205;c-2237846" wrote:I'll never understand the "don't use him on defense" type posts that come with so many legitimate complaints. The OP isn't asking for recommendations on how to avoid the issue. He's requesting the issue be fixed. I'm not sure people realize how degrading it is to essentially just tell someone their issue isn't important. Issue was bought up shortly after Gideon was available to players and tested on defense, and seems like its WAI for balancing reasonsI think all toons should perform their absolute best when controlled by AI, regardless of how they are released (marquee, legendary, journey, galactic chase, galactic challenges, conquest etc)

"Kyno;c-2237850" wrote:"Bulldog1205;c-2237846" wrote:I'll never understand the "don't use him on defense" type posts that come with so many legitimate complaints. The OP isn't asking for recommendations on how to avoid the issue. He's requesting the issue be fixed. I'm not sure people realize how degrading it is to essentially just tell someone their issue isn't important. But what if the design intent of the characters AI is for him to be used on offense and to not make him "too powerful" as his is only a marquee character. I disagree with this, but that's not my point. You've given a reason for having an opinion that it shouldn't be changed, and that's fine. Thats healthy discussion. I don't believe everyone has to agree. But telling him to not use imperial troopers on defense, when he clearly knows that and it's the reason he's complaining, is just dismissive and sometimes hurtful, even if people aren't intending for it to be.

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Da_Bauers
New Spectator
4 years ago
Dont use auto.
BTTripleZero
4 years ago
I'll never understand the "don't use him on defense" type posts that come with so many legitimate complaints.

The OP isn't asking for recommendations on how to avoid the issue. He's requesting the issue be fixed. I'm not sure people realize how degrading it is to essentially just tell someone their issue isn't important.
NyKynoe
4 years ago
"Bulldog1205;c-2237846" wrote:
I'll never understand the "don't use him on defense" type posts that come with so many legitimate complaints.

The OP isn't asking for recommendations on how to avoid the issue. He's requesting the issue be fixed. I'm not sure people realize how degrading it is to essentially just tell someone their issue isn't important.

But what if the design intent of the characters AI is for him to be used on offense and to not make him "too powerful" as his is only a marquee character.
NotRealUltra
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
"Bulldog1205;c-2237846" wrote:
I'll never understand the "don't use him on defense" type posts that come with so many legitimate complaints.

The OP isn't asking for recommendations on how to avoid the issue. He's requesting the issue be fixed. I'm not sure people realize how degrading it is to essentially just tell someone their issue isn't important.

Issue was bought up shortly after Gideon was available to players and tested on defense, and seems like its WAI for balancing reasons

I think all toons should perform their absolute best when controlled by AI, regardless of how they are released (marquee, legendary, journey, galactic chase, galactic challenges, conquest etc)
BTTripleZero
4 years ago
"Kyno;c-2237850" wrote:
"Bulldog1205;c-2237846" wrote:
I'll never understand the "don't use him on defense" type posts that come with so many legitimate complaints.

The OP isn't asking for recommendations on how to avoid the issue. He's requesting the issue be fixed. I'm not sure people realize how degrading it is to essentially just tell someone their issue isn't important.

But what if the design intent of the characters AI is for him to be used on offense and to not make him "too powerful" as his is only a marquee character.

I disagree with this, but that's not my point. You've given a reason for having an opinion that it shouldn't be changed, and that's fine. Thats healthy discussion. I don't believe everyone has to agree. But telling him to not use imperial troopers on defense, when he clearly knows that and it's the reason he's complaining, is just dismissive and sometimes hurtful, even if people aren't intending for it to be.
tvsfrink
4 years ago
"Bulldog1205;c-2237862" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2237850" wrote:
"Bulldog1205;c-2237846" wrote:
I'll never understand the "don't use him on defense" type posts that come with so many legitimate complaints.

The OP isn't asking for recommendations on how to avoid the issue. He's requesting the issue be fixed. I'm not sure people realize how degrading it is to essentially just tell someone their issue isn't important.

But what if the design intent of the characters AI is for him to be used on offense and to not make him "too powerful" as his is only a marquee character.

I disagree with this, but that's not my point. You've given a reason for having an opinion that it shouldn't be changed, and that's fine. Thats healthy discussion. I don't believe everyone has to agree. But telling him to not use imperial troopers on defense, when he clearly knows that and it's the reason he's complaining, is just dismissive and sometimes hurtful, even if people aren't intending for it to be.

Hurtful?
treebunner
4 years ago
"MaruMaru;c-2238247" wrote:
No you don't. The only thing you have is that they are not considering changing it currently which can change both on their own accord or through feedback of players you regularly put down.

as you seem to know more , would you like to share your facts and opinions in the matter ?
NyKynoe
4 years ago
"MaruMaru;c-2238247" wrote:
No you don't. The only thing you have is that they are not considering changing it currently which can change both on their own accord or through feedback of players you regularly put down.

I'm confused, I dont what, exactly?

I was in the conversation where this exact feedback was given to them, and heard them expressly say this was intended. So yes I do have a good idea about this situation.

I never said they cant change it down the line, but I guess we can wait and see who is correct about this as time goes on.
NyKynoe
4 years ago
"CG_Doja_Fett;c-2205516" wrote:
Checked with devs. Gideon is WAI. No plans for AI change at this time. Thought y'all would want to know.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/2205516#Comment_2205516

I believe this is the best we have on the public facing side of things.

Although I do not have a full record of the Discord chat, which someone may have posted a screen shot of with a little more of a conversation about this and why its not likely to change.
NyKynoe
4 years ago
That is an interesting take on someone explaining a situation based on knowledge they have......

Either way, let's get back on topic and move on.