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"Killbot5000;c-1711636" wrote:
"NoomiZ;c-1711572" wrote:
We all know why they did it. Whales had a new toy in Revan and complained that Nest was good against it. Therefore it had to be nerfed. Nothing bug about it, just greed from whales."Ultra;c-1711563" wrote:
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/Nest-protection-up-against-Revan/td-p/7152662
As@scuba pointed out this was flagged as a bug a month ago
It is and always was a bug
A “bug” that conveniently deminishes a counter to a P2P toon. Yeah sure... nothing suspicious about that.
100% agree. Whales complained.
Myself and a few others found the qi'ra, nest combo to be very effective for a free to play strategy against pay to play, and exploited it. Oh well.
Btw, if you run qi'ra in arena, replace nest with vet chewie and revan leads are still completely autoable. His damage under qi'ra makes him hit extremely hard and he has tank like health and protection. Not nearly as good as nest, but if yoyr vandor is fast enough to get prepared before l3 dies, vet chew is a good'nuff nest replacement.... until he is magically nerfed as well.
Wait so you are upset that the Qira/Nest combination was “destroyed”, when vet Chewie is just as good? Where is the warrant for complaint here!?"OldBen;c-1711641" wrote:
"Ultra;c-1711613" wrote:
"Harlow;c-1711601" wrote:
I'm done with this Nest debate because clearly nobody has an open mind in this argument and its getting repetitive with people not listening to the facts
Evidentally Ultra... you already have a jar.
I've seen you on other post as CG advocate.
You have red stained mustache my friend.
If CG messes up, I'll call them out on it but when they fix something that's broke, I'll give credit where its due. They did the right thing
My advice would be to look at the situation again and judge them based on the facts of the matter (ability descriptions, intended behavior, observed behavior) rather than "what this means for me as someone who has to face Revan teams without Revan"
Maybe you do not understand us because you have Revan. Well...that‘s not realy open minded. Many Revan owners in my Shard get why people are upset and also call this what it is. A plain Nerf. Period.
Um... no.
It’s an issue discovered with testing between Revan and Nest. Simple. Although this seems like a nerf, it was NOT intended to be so.
At first, it may be upsetting. But @Ultra is looking past that initial feeling, and realizing that CG knows what they are doing, and that this was not a nerf or an intention to destroy a Revan counter. I’m sorry that some people are upset.- Dylan72a7 years agoRising Traveler
"Killbot5000;c-1711782" wrote:
"DaPowerfulJedi;c-1711703" wrote:
"Killbot5000;c-1711636" wrote:
"NoomiZ;c-1711572" wrote:
We all know why they did it. Whales had a new toy in Revan and complained that Nest was good against it. Therefore it had to be nerfed. Nothing bug about it, just greed from whales."Ultra;c-1711563" wrote:
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/Nest-protection-up-against-Revan/td-p/7152662
As@scuba pointed out this was flagged as a bug a month ago
It is and always was a bug
A “bug” that conveniently deminishes a counter to a P2P toon. Yeah sure... nothing suspicious about that.
100% agree. Whales complained.
Myself and a few others found the qi'ra, nest combo to be very effective for a free to play strategy against pay to play, and exploited it. Oh well.
Btw, if you run qi'ra in arena, replace nest with vet chewie and revan leads are still completely autoable. His damage under qi'ra makes him hit extremely hard and he has tank like health and protection. Not nearly as good as nest, but if yoyr vandor is fast enough to get prepared before l3 dies, vet chew is a good'nuff nest replacement.... until he is magically nerfed as well.
@Killbot5000 Do you think you could record a battle with vet chewy against Revan? I would like to see it for fun.
Wish i could have videoed my win from earlier. This was a draw. Nobody lost and 20 seconds more would have been a win, or if I would have manually played it..... but I didn't want to be a liar, so I put it on auto like I said.
I will get video of revan with all jedi tomorrow.
No zeta on vet chew yet, so i believe he would work. Og chewie should work as well, but mine is only 5* and dies before vandor can get prepared usually.
Long rant, but scoundrels with qi'ra lead are still perfectly viable unless rng has revan mark vandor from the start.
https://youtu.be/5XSyz5NzVLA
Well, thanks for the video, but it's hardly Revan meta. Come back when you're taking R1 with that combo. I could take on that Revan with Nest even after the nerf. - NotRealUltra7 years agoLegend
"Nihion;c-1711815" wrote:
Exactly."OldBen;c-1711641" wrote:
"Ultra;c-1711613" wrote:
"Harlow;c-1711601" wrote:
I'm done with this Nest debate because clearly nobody has an open mind in this argument and its getting repetitive with people not listening to the facts
Evidentally Ultra... you already have a jar.
I've seen you on other post as CG advocate.
You have red stained mustache my friend.
If CG messes up, I'll call them out on it but when they fix something that's broke, I'll give credit where its due. They did the right thing
My advice would be to look at the situation again and judge them based on the facts of the matter (ability descriptions, intended behavior, observed behavior) rather than "what this means for me as someone who has to face Revan teams without Revan"
Maybe you do not understand us because you have Revan. Well...that‘s not realy open minded. Many Revan owners in my Shard get why people are upset and also call this what it is. A plain Nerf. Period.
Um... no.
It’s an issue discovered with testing between Revan and Nest. Simple. Although this seems like a nerf, it was NOT intended to be so.
At first, it may be upsetting. But @Ultra is looking past that initial feeling, and realizing that CG knows what they are doing, and that this was not a nerf or an intention to destroy a Revan counter. I’m sorry that some people are upset.
Some might find it extremely hard to believe but a few hours before the bug fix, I 7 starred my Nest and immediately pushed her to g12 and equipped my g12+ gear I was saving for months just to counter Revan teams on Grand Arena (saving my own for defense).
On the upside, in my opinion, the second best plug and play toon after Thrawn and needs as much speed as possible and works excellent against 99% other team comps "DarthDarthDarth;c-1711816" wrote:
"Killbot5000;c-1711782" wrote:
"DaPowerfulJedi;c-1711703" wrote:
"Killbot5000;c-1711636" wrote:
"NoomiZ;c-1711572" wrote:
We all know why they did it. Whales had a new toy in Revan and complained that Nest was good against it. Therefore it had to be nerfed. Nothing bug about it, just greed from whales."Ultra;c-1711563" wrote:
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/Nest-protection-up-against-Revan/td-p/7152662
As@scuba pointed out this was flagged as a bug a month ago
It is and always was a bug
A “bug” that conveniently deminishes a counter to a P2P toon. Yeah sure... nothing suspicious about that.
100% agree. Whales complained.
Myself and a few others found the qi'ra, nest combo to be very effective for a free to play strategy against pay to play, and exploited it. Oh well.
Btw, if you run qi'ra in arena, replace nest with vet chewie and revan leads are still completely autoable. His damage under qi'ra makes him hit extremely hard and he has tank like health and protection. Not nearly as good as nest, but if yoyr vandor is fast enough to get prepared before l3 dies, vet chew is a good'nuff nest replacement.... until he is magically nerfed as well.
@Killbot5000 Do you think you could record a battle with vet chewy against Revan? I would like to see it for fun.
Wish i could have videoed my win from earlier. This was a draw. Nobody lost and 20 seconds more would have been a win, or if I would have manually played it..... but I didn't want to be a liar, so I put it on auto like I said.
I will get video of revan with all jedi tomorrow.
No zeta on vet chew yet, so i believe he would work. Og chewie should work as well, but mine is only 5* and dies before vandor can get prepared usually.
Long rant, but scoundrels with qi'ra lead are still perfectly viable unless rng has revan mark vandor from the start.
https://youtu.be/5XSyz5NzVLA
Well, thanks for the video, but it's hardly Revan meta. Come back when you're taking R1 with that combo. I could take on that Revan with Nest even after the nerf.
Thats why i said I wod post another. ;-)
The "meta" is no different.- ninjah97 years agoSeasoned AceThis is a fricking joke!!!! Nerf the best ftp Revan counter out there, so their cash cow can be more dominant. Revan was already tailor made to counter every meta character out there, and now this!!? I run maul and nest in arena to battle the ocean of Revan teams. Even the players in my shard who use Revan think this is a joke. They refuse to fix ftp characters, and then nerf a ftp toon to make their biggest paywall character ever more dominant. Pure money move, pure sleaze, nice CG real nice.....
"OldBen;c-1711484" wrote:
"Ultra;c-1711451" wrote:
"Dave12;c-1711448" wrote:
No
“Only?” This was how you counteracted a Revan team. This is a huge deal in Arena, and it seems the “this is not what we intended” is really “oh crud, our Revan p2p players are getting upset”
If you read what the bug fix was about you would know that the only way Nest users were beating Revan was by exploiting a bug
Fake News.
Us „Nest Users“ were not exploiting anything. We used a characters mechanic that has been there for almost 6 Month . This clearly aint no bug. So do not call it a bug. Dear Devs: Just be honest. You
made a mistake programing her the way she was cause you were not smart enough to forsee what she could do to upcoming meta toons. So now you nerf her. It‘s not a problem. Just give us „Nest Users“ all the Gear and Zetas back that we invested in her and the teams around her. Because we knew how the Character you designed was working. Based on that knowledge we were building our Revan Counterteams that are useless now. And to everybody that says this is not a big deal: you are wrong. For me and many others it is a big deal. Please take this serious.
If you don't know what "bug" means, you have no business commenting on it. Just because something's been there since character release, doesn't not make it a bug.- So, I guess I'm not using zetas anymore. It seems like every time I spend a zeta, someting gets "fixed"
"NoomiZ;c-1711572" wrote:
We all know why they did it. Whales had a new toy in Revan and complained that Nest was good against it. Therefore it had to be nerfed. Nothing bug about it, just greed from whales."Ultra;c-1711563" wrote:
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/Nest-protection-up-against-Revan/td-p/7152662
As@scuba pointed out this was flagged as a bug a month ago
It is and always was a bug
A “bug” that conveniently deminishes a counter to a P2P toon. Yeah sure... nothing suspicious about that.
Literally never seen one person complain about Nest's viability against Revan. Revan v Nest on offense is the easiest thing in the world.
The echo chamber enjoys giving CG flak for all these perceived slights, but all of you literally make garbage up to support your thin arguments. It's pathetic.- And if this was a known big for a long time... Why not fix it right when Nest was released or when she became F2P? Oh, they needed to make money off her when she was released and wasn't important enough to "fix" until she was able to beat the biggest cash cow to date
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