I currently have mats for 2 Zetas saved up and am unsure where to put them. I would like a list of the next several zetas I should get and in what order. I would like advice from a large and diverse group of players with a range of well-argued opinions. I posted a megathread last week that included this question among too many other questions and only got a few responses. That was clearly too unwieldy and unfocused so I'm going to post several more focused threads instead, starting with this one. This is what I have right now: https://swgoh.gg/u/letareus/collection/I've been playing for about 8 months and am currently focusing on JTR prep. I've completed the legendary farms for every character except JTR and GMY. I'm very successful in squad and fleet arena and achieve #1 or #2 for my payout almost every day. The Zetas I already have are:1. Palpatine lead for arena and misc2. Vader lead for soloing Heroic Rancor, HAAT p2, and tier 5 STR (not ideal as the debuffs are getting harder to apply but still does more damage than any other team I have)3. Sion unique for arena and raids4. Thrawn unique for my raids and a slight arena buff5. Nihilus' unique for a slight arena buff.I am considering several zetas but will consider any suggestions. What I'm looking for the most is raid utility/performance (I currently lack real raid teams except a variant of my arena team) with a secondary interest in more arena security and ensuring that I'm successful in getting JTR. I'm going to wrap up this post here to prevent this from bloating like my megathread, but will add that if you recommend CLS's IBAT you'll have to make a strong case because so far, CLS has been a relatively useless character for me for all the hype around him. I predict CLS will only start to be useful when I farm up a real team around him, but I predict that by the time I do that (basically by the time I have BB8 and Ventress ready), I will have enough mats for a third Zeta. Also, I have no plans to replace my current arena team (EP nightmare meta) because IMO EP>Bastila, EP>Traya, BH teams don't exist on my shard and there is nothing else except easily beaten trash like JTR/Rex teams. My EP team members also make up my current best raid teams with different comps so I wouldn't mind investing a bit more into it those characters. If you would like more background info you can read the bloated megathread here: https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/179689/next-zeta-raid-team-and-general-advice-and-what-should-i-farm-next-with-certain-currencies/p1?new=1

"Letareus;d-180532" wrote:...but will add that if you recommend CLS's IBAT you'll have to make a strong case because so far, CLS has been a relatively useless character for me for all the hype around him.It's not for anyone to have to make a case to convince you.Just let it be said - all CLS' Zetas make him fantastic.You don't really need any Zetas for JTR prep. But you might want to save them for her?Have you got Zetas on R2? They are fantastic too. A Zetaed CLS and a Zetaed R2 make for a very powerful duo indeed.

Have you heard the Sermon of Vandor?

Here is my zeta plan from start to the foreseeable future. I am at least as 'successful' as you.1) Palp lead for obvious reasons2) Sion unique for obvious reasons3) Nihilus unique - probably not essential but has certainly helped4) Palp unique - personally I think this zeta can be skipped, I haven't noticed a huge change with it. 5) Asajj Rampage6) CLS IBAT - now auto solo pit and solo p3/4 HAAT7) Asajj lead - now have mandatory zetas for P4 NS (rotationally choice now there's a nerf coming) 8) Han - now have mandatory zetas for chex mix9) JTR lead10) BB8 RWTP - now able to post respectable damage in p111) R2 NC - make p1 more reliable From 12 onwards I'll see how the state of play is. I was thinking talzin lead for P3 or Daka unique but with a nerf inbound that's not sensible right now. If the nerf makes them useless then I'll go for Veers unique - > bastila lead - > GMY - > Bossk - > Ezra - > OB - > Hoda unless new str teams become apparent.

We can't really decide for you......My next zetas are going on future HSTR teams. In order of essential to most damage improving. If you want to do better in raids, decide what teams you will use, gear them up, Zeta as required. If it's arena, stick the zetas on, they all help. I found EP didn't get killed in opening rounds with unique but only after G12. So decide what teams you want to use in what areas, Zeta leads then the most useful / damage increasing one's.

"CoastalJames" wrote:Ah now I got you...you're trolling...Well, he only got the (somewhat narrow) perspective from his own shard which is relatively young and obviously not populated with a lot of whales, or at least not on the same payout hour.EP>Traya: Traya is the better leader on defense since there are a lot more counters to EP lead than to Traya lead squads. Yes, you can beat Traya lead with EP lead and I did that even without having Traya in my squad but it is a gamble.JTR are garbage: A good JTR team will win against Nightmare on offense, in fact, some of them are so strong that I sometimes lose against them with my Nightmare squad (1yo shard, +105 average speed bonus on my arena squad). Yes, JTR is not very good against Nightsisters or Traya but she still does well against Bastila and EP Nightmare at least on offense.Which Zetas next: EP unique is definitely worth it if you plan to use him as a leader for several months to come. Survivability on EP helps in several arena matches e.g. against Bastila (it's not smart to use EP against her but it can work) or strong/fast JTR teams with Holdo."Chicagotarsier" wrote:Double zeta tarkin or thrawn....assume tarkin in your caseThat is a stupid advice to someone at his stage. I agree that one or both zetas (and 6E mods) on Tarkin might be required for him at some point to keep 1st place in fleets but definitely not within the next few months. Hence, zetas on Tarkin at this point will not have any impact on his performance for a period of time in which he'll at least get another 5 (rather 10 or more) zetas. We actually don't even know what capitol ship will be the best choice by then as a new one might pop up...

Next Several Zetas Priority Discussion

Player_7ctrhms9
7 years ago
"Letareus;d-180532" wrote:
...but will add that if you recommend CLS's IBAT you'll have to make a strong case because so far, CLS has been a relatively useless character for me for all the hype around him.

It's not for anyone to have to make a case to convince you.

Just let it be said - all CLS' Zetas make him fantastic.

You don't really need any Zetas for JTR prep. But you might want to save them for her?

Have you got Zetas on R2? They are fantastic too. A Zetaed CLS and a Zetaed R2 make for a very powerful duo indeed.
olddumper
7 years ago
Have you heard the Sermon of Vandor?
kieronkumar
7 years ago
Here is my zeta plan from start to the foreseeable future. I am at least as 'successful' as you.

1) Palp lead for obvious reasons
2) Sion unique for obvious reasons
3) Nihilus unique - probably not essential but has certainly helped
4) Palp unique - personally I think this zeta can be skipped, I haven't noticed a huge change with it.
5) Asajj Rampage
6) CLS IBAT - now auto solo pit and solo p3/4 HAAT
7) Asajj lead - now have mandatory zetas for P4 NS (rotationally choice now there's a nerf coming)
8) Han - now have mandatory zetas for chex mix
9) JTR lead
10) BB8 RWTP - now able to post respectable damage in p1
11) R2 NC - make p1 more reliable

From 12 onwards I'll see how the state of play is. I was thinking talzin lead for P3 or Daka unique but with a nerf inbound that's not sensible right now. If the nerf makes them useless then I'll go for Veers unique - > bastila lead - > GMY - > Bossk - > Ezra - > OB - > Hoda unless new str teams become apparent.
TheCaptainFizz
7 years ago
We can't really decide for you......

My next zetas are going on future HSTR teams. In order of essential to most damage improving.

If you want to do better in raids, decide what teams you will use, gear them up, Zeta as required.

If it's arena, stick the zetas on, they all help. I found EP didn't get killed in opening rounds with unique but only after G12.

So decide what teams you want to use in what areas, Zeta leads then the most useful / damage increasing one's.
VIR2L_One
7 years ago
"CoastalJames" wrote:
Ah now I got you...you're trolling...

Well, he only got the (somewhat narrow) perspective from his own shard which is relatively young and obviously not populated with a lot of whales, or at least not on the same payout hour.
EP>Traya: Traya is the better leader on defense since there are a lot more counters to EP lead than to Traya lead squads. Yes, you can beat Traya lead with EP lead and I did that even without having Traya in my squad but it is a gamble.
JTR are garbage: A good JTR team will win against Nightmare on offense, in fact, some of them are so strong that I sometimes lose against them with my Nightmare squad (1yo shard, +105 average speed bonus on my arena squad). Yes, JTR is not very good against Nightsisters or Traya but she still does well against Bastila and EP Nightmare at least on offense.
Which Zetas next: EP unique is definitely worth it if you plan to use him as a leader for several months to come. Survivability on EP helps in several arena matches e.g. against Bastila (it's not smart to use EP against her but it can work) or strong/fast JTR teams with Holdo.

"Chicagotarsier" wrote:
Double zeta tarkin or thrawn....assume tarkin in your case

That is a stupid advice to someone at his stage. I agree that one or both zetas (and 6E mods) on Tarkin might be required for him at some point to keep 1st place in fleets but definitely not within the next few months. Hence, zetas on Tarkin at this point will not have any impact on his performance for a period of time in which he'll at least get another 5 (rather 10 or more) zetas. We actually don't even know what capitol ship will be the best choice by then as a new one might pop up...
BrtStlnd
7 years ago
One thought after reading through... don’t skip Raid Han. He’s great for many game modes and his zeta is still one of the best bangs for your buck.
BrtStlnd
7 years ago
"CoastalJames;c-1640642" wrote:
"Letareus;c-1640242" wrote:
What's he used for besides Chex Mix?

You are a one-off. Talk like a pro but... :smiley:

Yeah I don’t even know where to start with this guy. He doesn’t want advice.
kieronkumar
7 years ago
EP>Traya is simply false but that's academic as Traya is some way away.

My recommendation would be to focus on raids, which is what you're doing. You've already identified the need to prep BB8 and Asajj; they would be my first recommendations - neither is quite ready yet but you can do pretty massive damage with BB8 at G9 and Asajj at G10 if you can mod them survivable enough. IBAT becomes extremely useful then and I would argue that is your current best option - you could probably auto solo Pit now with just Ackbar, CLS and BB8. I know you're soloing already but don't underestimate the QoL the auto button gives you. IBAT is also needed for the p1 HAAT solo.

I honestly don't think you have any other toons worth putting a zeta on right now - perhaps KRU because you have the beginnings of a FO team. If you don't want to zeta CLS/Asajj/BB8 now then you could wait until you have more sith teams farmed.

Edit: Finn is another option, would help you do more in p2 of HAAT and in TB but it's in the KRU ballpark - helpful but not top priority
ImTheChampion13
7 years ago
I’d also agree that IBAT is probably your best bet, based on your current gear. CLS can solo rancor (auto) and P1 HAAT (manual) with it zetaed. The downside would be that it’s not quite as useful in str, if you’re only looking for those teams, in which case you’re probably better off holding them until either you’ve got asaj geared up or you get JTR/BB8 (resistance team will eventually take up a minimum of 3 zetas, one for r2, one for bb8, and one for JTR, but survivability will go up if you double zeta BB8 and damage will go up if you double zeta R2. Rey only needs multiple zetas for arena).
LetoAtreidesII
7 years ago
So I went ahead and put a Zeta on CLS' IBAT. Zetas are actually not necessary to solo p1 HAAT with CLS, I've been doing it for a while now and in fact it's demonstrated here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghKHUTcXkIc

However, due to the multitude of recommendations and because it can sometimes be a bit scary soloing p1 HAAT without a Zeta, I put the Zeta on CLS. It's more comfortable now for sure, but soloing p1 HAAT is still a very marginally useful role, and CLS isn't very useful for much else yet.

I still have one Zeta ready I have to put somewhere. I REALLY want to put in on EP's unique, especially since bastila matches are endurance matches that boil down to spamming basics on most of my characters for many turns until I can get the enemy team's bonus protection down, but have been advised not to several times.

"FailingCrab;c-1635577" wrote:
EP>Traya is simply false but that's academic as Traya is some way away.

By that I meant that EP is supposed to be the counter to Traya in squad arena based on what I heard. I'm sure Traya is more powerful in raids and stuff.

"FailingCrab;c-1635577" wrote:
IBAT becomes extremely useful then and I would argue that is your current best option - you could probably auto solo Pit now with just Ackbar, CLS and BB8. I know you're soloing already but don't underestimate the QoL the auto button gives you.

I have IBAT now but I don't know if I'd trust auto to do my Pit for me lol. Also, question about CLS soloing HAAT p1 - when do I stop? Last night I made it to p2 and couldn't escape there.

Is the Ackbar, CLS, BB8, Ventress, Thrawn team good for STR? Reason is because my main STR and HAAT p2 team atm includes Thrawn. I also don't know what I'm going to do with my p2 zVader HAAT team without Thrawn, unless I want to risk escape. The Ackbar team AFAIK can only start when p2 HAAT only has 20-40% left, and while my team is still undergeared should probably start at p3.

"Dirty_Litle_Smuggler;c-1635590" wrote:
I’d also agree that IBAT is probably your best bet, based on your current gear. CLS can solo rancor (auto) and P1 HAAT (manual) with it zetaed. The downside would be that it’s not quite as useful in str, if you’re only looking for those teams, in which case you’re probably better off holding them until either you’ve got asaj geared up or you get JTR/BB8 (resistance team will eventually take up a minimum of 3 zetas, one for r2, one for bb8, and one for JTR, but survivability will go up if you double zeta BB8 and damage will go up if you double zeta R2. Rey only needs multiple zetas for arena).

So, double zeta BB8 and r2 eventually? Oh boy. If JTR returns this month I don't think I'll be able to get her to 7 stars btw. Maybe 5 stars. I think Ventress's Zeta might be my next best bet b/c of the Ackbar HAAT team, but by the time I have her ready I might have my next Zeta ready. And nightsisters are good in STR and I'll have a team eventually. Does Ackbar HAAT team require a BB8 zeta? Between the JTR team and Nightsisters, which would be better generally in STR? I can use a 5 star JTR since my guild is only running T4-T5 STR atm.