I've been thinking for a while now, and some posts I've seen here are kind of confirming it. Are nightsisters really still arena viable with a Zeta Ventress instead of Zeta Talzin? Is she even needed for a team? I feel like a good lineup would be: Ventress zeta leadTaliaNightsister acolyteNightsister zombieOld Daka.What are your thoughts on this, and what would an ideal strategy be for a team like that? Is it even viable? (since plague eats right through high health characters)

Talia's heal is broken on defense so no that team would not work. Ventress definitely is a good lead but I'd still run MT off lead on a NS squad

"electricnick260;d-142137" wrote: Are nightsisters really still arena viableWhat do you mean "still viable"? They never were viable, and still aren't.

"DarkstarSunrise;c-1333153" wrote:"electricnick260;d-142137" wrote: Are nightsisters really still arena viableWhat do you mean "still viable"? They never were viable, and still aren't.Got any footage of these unviable G12 NS squads?

"tRRRey;c-1333151" wrote:Talia's heal is broken on defense so no that team would not work. Ventress definitely is a good lead but I'd still run MT off lead on a NS squadCan you explain this? Does she not use her heal?

"Bulldog1205;c-1333191" wrote:"tRRRey;c-1333151" wrote:Talia's heal is broken on defense so no that team would not work. Ventress definitely is a good lead but I'd still run MT off lead on a NS squadCan you explain this? Does she not use her heal?It's a cleanse now but the AI still treats it like a heal, so it won't be used how you'd typically use it on offense.

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TR3Y_66
7 years ago
Talia's heal is broken on defense so no that team would not work. Ventress definitely is a good lead but I'd still run MT off lead on a NS squad
soCalMikestang
7 years ago
"electricnick260;d-142137" wrote:
Are nightsisters really still arena viable

What do you mean "still viable"? They never were viable, and still aren't.
TR3Y_66
7 years ago
"DarkstarSunrise;c-1333153" wrote:
"electricnick260;d-142137" wrote:
Are nightsisters really still arena viable

What do you mean "still viable"? They never were viable, and still aren't.

Got any footage of these unviable G12 NS squads?
BTTripleZero
7 years ago
"tRRRey;c-1333151" wrote:
Talia's heal is broken on defense so no that team would not work. Ventress definitely is a good lead but I'd still run MT off lead on a NS squad

Can you explain this? Does she not use her heal?
TR3Y_66
7 years ago
"Bulldog1205;c-1333191" wrote:
"tRRRey;c-1333151" wrote:
Talia's heal is broken on defense so no that team would not work. Ventress definitely is a good lead but I'd still run MT off lead on a NS squad

Can you explain this? Does she not use her heal?

It's a cleanse now but the AI still treats it like a heal, so it won't be used how you'd typically use it on offense.
aimbotRal
7 years ago
Its a cleanse and a heal now*.
BTTripleZero
7 years ago
So the AI only uses it when someone is low health, basically? That’s very disappointing. I don’t understand why they can code a healer properly. Hermit Yoda won’t even use his at all.
electricnick260
7 years ago
"DarkstarSunrise;c-1333153" wrote:
"electricnick260;d-142137" wrote:
Are nightsisters really still arena viable

What do you mean "still viable"? They never were viable, and still aren't.

I haven't seen a well setup nightsister team lose a battle once, outside of test accounts where the idea is to make them lose. Also, I see a minor issue with using talia in a squad here. I was mainly thinking talia on her basic would keep allies bumped above half health so they'd constantly gain turn meter after they fell below half health again. Plus Daka could keep reviving and ventress has a heal too, that the AI does use, I know that for a fact, happens a lot in GW.
boulywif
7 years ago
Running NS without Talzin is like running Empire without Thrawn. She brings so much that it's hard to replace her.
Croger1523
7 years ago
"BulYwif;c-1333422" wrote:
Running NS without Talzin is like running Empire without Thrawn. She brings so much that it's hard to replace her.

Ignorance is bliss I guess, you have no clue. Asajj is a way better lead than talzin is. With a MT lead your gonna get rocked against better teams. Please show me a video that shows Asajj is not a better lead than MT. All these people who never played NS now spouting garbage like this is what gives NS a bad name.

30 speed, 30 offense, gain 50% TM when NS fall below 100% health (think of using talia as a tm booster, her heal grants tm and when she uses it she loses health so you gain an extra 50% so all NS pretty much get a whole 2nd round) and you have a 50% chance to remove 20% TM(Acolyte in stealth 2 attacks per turn 40% tm with just her)

Now you have a MT in the group and she gets better too, her aoe now has a chance to remove 20% tm to all enemies, Asajj aoe has a chance as well. Everyone gets so tunnel visioned on the new character they fail to see that MT isn't the be all end all of NS.