So, condition is we have mirror match. Papa palp zeta lead, team member all sith/empire. Who's move first is who have higher speed vader. Vader force crush, then curling. Team gain TM for every debuff dispelled by curling. Team have full TM. Then lower speed vader do same thing force crush then curling, their TM is near full also. Next move is aoe between palp stun, nihilus drain force, tarkin debuff, thrawn swap tm/fracture, whatever. Both side have full TM. Then who's move next is decided by RNG, am i right?I am annoyed by this.. u barely need strategy for something that random. What do u guys think? :flushed:

Only rng I have v palp teams (I use one as well) are the Palp stuns, which is usually him getting 4-5 and if I get a move I got 0-2

"JohnnySteelAlpha;c-1479370" wrote:This will become more of a problem with enemy Sion becuase DN will gain TM from Vader's force crush...so he could bump up to 100% TM right after Vader uses FC, yank Vader's CDs so he can't even use CB :)Yes.. yes.. sure u are defenitely correct!! so the new future meta is: "sith RNG meta" :wink:

Just wanted to jump in - and agree. Basically there are two reasons Papa Palp lead teams facing off if far too RNG dependent.The obvious one is the Palp AoE stun (and no, it doesn't really matter when in the battle it happens - so even if you're the faster, better modded team, it's irrelevant). Typically, whoever stuns more of the enemy wins. Since everyone's tenacity is cranked, it comes down to the 15%.Secondly, the RNG in determining who goes first and in what order when several toons on each side have 100% TM can greatly swing the battle. If DN goes first, everyone's specials are on cool down. Easy win. Honestly, as someone who runs a top-end Palp lead team, I target NS and JTRey teams before other Palp teams for that reason. The others are almost a guaranteed win - the RNG vs. another Palp team, not so much.

"Zombie961;c-1478564" wrote:Only rng I have v palp teams (I use one as well) are the Palp stuns, which is usually him getting 4-5 and if I get a move I got 0-2Get 4-5 stuns, u are dead in the water :lol:

"RacerDejak;d-160933" wrote:So, condition is we have mirror match. Papa palp zeta lead, team member all sith/empire. Who's move first is who have higher speed vader. Vader force crush, then curling. Team gain TM for every debuff dispelled by curling. Team have full TM. Then lower speed vader do same thing force crush then curling, their TM is near full also. Next move is aoe between palp stun, nihilus drain force, tarkin debuff, thrawn swap tm/fracture, whatever. Both side have full TM. Then who's move next is decided by RNG, am i right?I am annoyed by this.. u barely need strategy for something that random. What do u guys think? :flushed:What i think is I don't use palp teams against other palp teams unless I'm faster than them. I prefer good old rey, no RNG involved

Papa Palp meta team. Too RNG dependant?

RacerDejak
7 years ago
Problem solved.. most of my shardmates gettin' bored with the coin flip situation, so they revert using team that they like. JTR, titans, rex, talzim, etc. Palp lead now is not so much as before
RacerDejak
7 years ago
"Nokhai;c-1488080" wrote:
Like someone said couple of posts earlier,mirror-match should be avoided unless your Vader is damn fast.So when i have to battle a Palp lead team i just use a Rex lead team.A couple of hours ago CubsFan+MobileGamer made a video of a couple of teams that can beat this new meta.I think that they might have escaped this team : Rex lead,Palp,Tarkin,Raid Han and GK.If you have a fast Tarkin then you have over 80% chances of winning since his AoE removes most of the enemy's tm.While someone said that Han should shoot Vader first i don't agree with that since Nihilus will most probably go next and DF your team.I always shoot Nihilus first and then let Vader do his AoE since this feeds my team with tm and makes Rex put tenacity up.So this team does pretty well against Palp lead teams as long as your Tarkin is fast so he can apply his AoE almost immediately.

@Nokhai actually this one also work: Rex lead, han, cls, GK, thrawn. CubsFan n Mobilegamer maybe pass that too. I stun vader first, then buff immun+reduce tm palp/sion/nihilus/whoever i like with cls special, thrawn swap tm with rex, tenacity up, thrawn fracture GK/whoever tank they have. Game over hmm

But usually i targeted palp to die first, bcause his unique drain HP from han, cls, n GK.
Nokhai85
7 years ago
"RacerDejak;c-1488632" wrote:
"Nokhai;c-1488080" wrote:
Like someone said couple of posts earlier,mirror-match should be avoided unless your Vader is damn fast.So when i have to battle a Palp lead team i just use a Rex lead team.A couple of hours ago CubsFan+MobileGamer made a video of a couple of teams that can beat this new meta.I think that they might have escaped this team : Rex lead,Palp,Tarkin,Raid Han and GK.If you have a fast Tarkin then you have over 80% chances of winning since his AoE removes most of the enemy's tm.While someone said that Han should shoot Vader first i don't agree with that since Nihilus will most probably go next and DF your team.I always shoot Nihilus first and then let Vader do his AoE since this feeds my team with tm and makes Rex put tenacity up.So this team does pretty well against Palp lead teams as long as your Tarkin is fast so he can apply his AoE almost immediately.

@Nokhai actually this one also work: Rex lead, han, cls, GK, thrawn. CubsFan n Mobilegamer maybe pass that too. I stun vader first, then buff immun+reduce tm palp/sion/nihilus/whoever i like with cls special, thrawn swap tm with rex, tenacity up, thrawn fracture GK/whoever tank they have. Game over hmm

But usually i targeted palp to die first, bcause his unique drain HP from han, cls, n GK.

I won't argue with you on this one but i don't have Thrawn and CLS so i have to improvise.And this team,if it's fast enough,does its job pretty well.Rex man!The all around good and against any kind of meta guy. :smile:
RacerDejak
7 years ago
"Nokhai;c-1488650" wrote:
"RacerDejak;c-1488632" wrote:
"Nokhai;c-1488080" wrote:
Like someone said couple of posts earlier,mirror-match should be avoided unless your Vader is damn fast.So when i have to battle a Palp lead team i just use a Rex lead team.A couple of hours ago CubsFan+MobileGamer made a video of a couple of teams that can beat this new meta.I think that they might have escaped this team : Rex lead,Palp,Tarkin,Raid Han and GK.If you have a fast Tarkin then you have over 80% chances of winning since his AoE removes most of the enemy's tm.While someone said that Han should shoot Vader first i don't agree with that since Nihilus will most probably go next and DF your team.I always shoot Nihilus first and then let Vader do his AoE since this feeds my team with tm and makes Rex put tenacity up.So this team does pretty well against Palp lead teams as long as your Tarkin is fast so he can apply his AoE almost immediately.

@Nokhai actually this one also work: Rex lead, han, cls, GK, thrawn. CubsFan n Mobilegamer maybe pass that too. I stun vader first, then buff immun+reduce tm palp/sion/nihilus/whoever i like with cls special, thrawn swap tm with rex, tenacity up, thrawn fracture GK/whoever tank they have. Game over hmm

But usually i targeted palp to die first, bcause his unique drain HP from han, cls, n GK.

I won't argue with you on this one but i don't have Thrawn and CLS so i have to improvise.And this team,if it's fast enough,does its job pretty well.Rex man!The all around good and against any kind of meta guy. :smile:

Oh i see @Nokhai , sorry i don't know that. Rex just working great with ANYTHING. Latest i see people using rex with wampa, talzim, sion, GK. Yea fast team lead by rex just make them more ridiculously faster, and rarely coin flip happen!!

REX MY MAN!! :joy:
Nokhai85
7 years ago
"RacerDejak;c-1488665" wrote:
"Nokhai;c-1488650" wrote:
"RacerDejak;c-1488632" wrote:
"Nokhai;c-1488080" wrote:
Like someone said couple of posts earlier,mirror-match should be avoided unless your Vader is damn fast.So when i have to battle a Palp lead team i just use a Rex lead team.A couple of hours ago CubsFan+MobileGamer made a video of a couple of teams that can beat this new meta.I think that they might have escaped this team : Rex lead,Palp,Tarkin,Raid Han and GK.If you have a fast Tarkin then you have over 80% chances of winning since his AoE removes most of the enemy's tm.While someone said that Han should shoot Vader first i don't agree with that since Nihilus will most probably go next and DF your team.I always shoot Nihilus first and then let Vader do his AoE since this feeds my team with tm and makes Rex put tenacity up.So this team does pretty well against Palp lead teams as long as your Tarkin is fast so he can apply his AoE almost immediately.

@Nokhai actually this one also work: Rex lead, han, cls, GK, thrawn. CubsFan n Mobilegamer maybe pass that too. I stun vader first, then buff immun+reduce tm palp/sion/nihilus/whoever i like with cls special, thrawn swap tm with rex, tenacity up, thrawn fracture GK/whoever tank they have. Game over hmm

But usually i targeted palp to die first, bcause his unique drain HP from han, cls, n GK.

I won't argue with you on this one but i don't have Thrawn and CLS so i have to improvise.And this team,if it's fast enough,does its job pretty well.Rex man!The all around good and against any kind of meta guy. :smile:

Oh i see @Nokhai , sorry i don't know that. Rex just working great with ANYTHING. Latest i see people using rex with wampa, talzim, sion, GK. Yea fast team lead by rex just make them more ridiculously faster, and rarely coin flip happen!!

REX MY MAN!! :joy:

I have a guy on my server that uses a Rex lead with Wampa in it.I've chosen Tarkin because of his tm removal and also because his AoE can decimate the opponent's team.

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