Paradoxical mechanics of DN

"ErsinBaba111;d-154303" wrote:
There is a paradoxical mechanics in D. Nihilus' in annihilation skill. His omega upgrade described as " the defeated target cannot be revived" , Yet , it is useless against NS- Teams !!! Either the describtion is wrong , or CGs ignore that purposefully!!

I need an explanatory statement from a CG ( not from an advocate who benefits NS team in arena)

I don't use nightsisters I actually hate fighting them. The whole point of a nightsister zombie is the flavor of it. She's a zombie. She's not actually alive to begin with, she's undead. You can not kill that which is already dead. She's not actually reviving, she's just standing up again because you can't actually kill her. When she actually dies dies, it is because the nightsisters she is standing up to protect are no longer there. She still didn't actually die, she just no longer had a reason to stand up.

It’s not useless against NS teams. It’s useless on zombie while othe NS are alive... Zombie’s ability (endless horde which in and of itself implies it can’t be one shotted by NH or boba) states that the revive can’t be prevented. Seeing as how abilities like bobas or NHs are abilities in the game that would typically prevent a revive, then it can be concluded that zombies unique is referencing those abilities.

"ErsinBaba111;c-1425787" wrote:

"Stud3099;c-1425781" wrote:
It’s not useless against NS teams. It’s useless on zombie while othe NS are alive... Zombie’s ability (endless horde which in and of itself implies it can’t be one shotted by NH or boba) states that the revive can’t be prevented. Seeing as how abilities like bobas or NHs are abilities in the game that would typically prevent a revive, then it can be concluded that zombies unique is referencing those abilities.

then why they claim 5 omegas for DN skill upgrade. It is completely useless... Let them make a standart purple ability mats upgrade. Omegas are wasted there

Completely USEFUL against literally every other character in the game though

"ErsinBaba111;c-1425787" wrote:

"Stud3099;c-1425781" wrote:
It’s not useless against NS teams. It’s useless on zombie while othe NS are alive... Zombie’s ability (endless horde which in and of itself implies it can’t be one shotted by NH or boba) states that the revive can’t be prevented. Seeing as how abilities like bobas or NHs are abilities in the game that would typically prevent a revive, then it can be concluded that zombies unique is referencing those abilities.

then why they claim 5 omegas for DN skill upgrade. It is completely useless... Let them make a standar purple ability mats upgrade. Omegas are wasted there

It's not completely useless. It's completely useful against the other 140 (estimate) characters in the game. Don't use it against NS zombie, that's the only character with the ability to keep reviving.

"ErsinBaba111;c-1425787" wrote:

"Stud3099;c-1425781" wrote:
It’s not useless against NS teams. It’s useless on zombie while othe NS are alive... Zombie’s ability (endless horde which in and of itself implies it can’t be one shotted by NH or boba) states that the revive can’t be prevented. Seeing as how abilities like bobas or NHs are abilities in the game that would typically prevent a revive, then it can be concluded that zombies unique is referencing those abilities.

then why they claim 5 omegas for DN skill upgrade. It is completely useless... Let them make a standart purple ability mats upgrade. Omegas are wasted there

It's far, FAR from useless! Especially against a z mother talzin ..

Useless EVERYTIME.....0.7% of the time :)

Considering that every character on a nightsister squad can be revived, I'd say being able to make sure Talia doesn't come back to life to remove buff immunity from zombie is pretty useful. Same with not letting Daka come back and assist and stun your team every time a nightsister attacks.

Even though zombie's revive can't be prevented, Nihilus's annihilate is an AMAZING tool to have when fighting nightsisters.

"ErsinBaba111;c-1425811" wrote:
I still felt cheated.. 5 omegas could have been used somewhere else...

Doesmt matter what you felt. You weren't cheated. The ability is still awesome.

I love how there are like 100 posts about ns zombie and how it interacts with nihilus deathtrooper and boba but nobody talks about heras backup plan and how it does THE EXACT SAME THING

I personally don't have a problem with it. It just amuses me everytime I read one of these threads.

"thomssi;c-1426431" wrote:
Back to the old chestnut if irresistible force vs immovable object.

Devs clarified ages ago that immovable object (zombie) prevails in this case.

based on the two describtions that's logical. Nihilus' annihilate always prevents revives, unless revives can't be prevented. Boba always revives with BHR active, unless revives are prevented.
imo that's not really an irresistible force vs immovable object kinda thing.