People, chill with zFinn in HAAT

Would love to see your math behind the fact that this would not greatly impact zFinn squad results in HAAT! Yes agree the exposes speed up the squad by a huge amount but popping exposes is also a huge portion of the damage dealt by the squad in HAAT as well. I haven't done the math but intend to and would not be surprised to see zFinn squads damage reduced by about ~30% in HAAT with this change.

Zfinn was already a hit or miss team for HAAT, since you have to pass the 80% chance to expose after you pass the tenacity check.

True Finn mechanics is more about tm feed but the damage added by the exposes are very much needed, especially for smaller guilds who are trying to master it still.

If you have BB8 Finn teams become significantly better due to the tenacity down and illuminate destiny. But I can still do more reliable damage with Princess Zody team

@Flugsvamp Nice we have a few members with Princess Zodys but haven't put up massive numbers. Whats an avg score in HAAT you get with your squad (and what phase(s))

Yeah as a guild officer in a guild that has not beaten a HAAT before, I feel bad telling my guildmates to get Finn. We are going to need every point of damage we can get and this has probably set us back a few weeks.

"Old_Man_Jenkins;c-1491899" wrote:
Yeah as a guild officer in a guild that has not beaten a HAAT before, I feel bad telling my guildmates to get Finn. We are going to need every point of damage we can get and this has probably set us back a few weeks.

i don't think it will have that much of an impact on the damage output. Probably like 10% less dmg. The difference between a good run and a bad run is way more than 10% with zFinn resistance due the team being rather RNG dependent. Ofcourse retreating over and over could make every logged run a good run, but that's time consuming.
Still sucks that you're gonna do less dmg ofcourse, but it's not as bad of a nerf as it is for the sith raid (due to boss health).

I think the biggest impact will be in trying to topple the tank in P2 and P4. I use Finn/Poe/Rey/RT/RP to add some damage in P2 (JTR/R2/BB8 all get used in P3/P4) and it's already tough to topple the tank, this will probably mean I can't do it anymore.

With that said I do maybe 1m of my 15-18m with that team so I'm not too concerned, but I feel for those who need zFinn for their damage. They should have left HAAT alone.

"Tanzos;d-162562" wrote:
just because expose does 0.002% less damage on HAAT.

I agree that zFinn is still good, but check your math, it's 50% less expose damage.

"DarkstarSunrise;c-1492077" wrote:

"Tanzos;d-162562" wrote:
just because expose does 0.002% less damage on HAAT.

I agree that zFinn is still good, but check your math, it's 50% less expose damage.

When they said they were going to nerf it they calculated that expose counted for something like .05% of a Zfinn team's damage on HAAT, which means that cutting expose in half reduces overall damage of a Zfinn team by .025%... negligible.

This change has not impacted Zfinn teams on the HAAT at all. It really only makes a difference in the new raid.

Possible. I'll believe it after I have a chance to try it and see if I can no longer topple the tank.

And to be clear I'm not complaining. If that's the case I'll just have to improve my team's gear levels, which aren't that great.

But it's not true to say this won't have any impact on HAAT. For some that will be true, for others, not so much.

"TVF;c-1492119" wrote:
Possible. I'll believe it after I have a chance to try it and see if I can no longer topple the tank.

And to be clear I'm not complaining. If that's the case I'll just have to improve my team's gear levels, which aren't that great.

But it's not true to say this won't have any impact on HAAT. For some that will be true, for others, not so much.

I disagree, if it only affects overall damage by 1/4 of 1%, it won't impact anyone.