Phoenix can't cut it anymore

7* Phoenix team, that can't stay in top—500? That sounds like your team is either under—geared or poorly modded. Even though Phoenix can't compete in end—game top arena, they should still be able to do better than rank 500. How is your gear and mods compared to your opponents? Make sure that your guild raids often and do heroic tier raids (at least heroic pit raids — preferably heroic tank raids as well) to get gear. And if your mods are lacking you should spend some ressources farming/buying better mods. Good mods are a huge advantage over mediocre mods.

However, even with good gear and mods Phoenix will struggle against several team compositions, f.ex.:
Phoenix will make the eneny Vader ridiculously fast since they are 5 rebels and 2 jedi. You will struggle against EP lead Vader (Sith/empire) teams.
Phoenix don't have enough debuffs/AoE to handle NS teams.

You won't ever be able to just have a single arena team and stay in top forever. The META changes, and you need to change with it, if you want to stay competitive. In top—20, you will need to be on par with the changing METAs. at your rank (top—500) it will be a bit less stressfull — even though you will have to develop your team/roster just like your opponents do.

It's just Palpa/Vader, their rework basically gave everyone a complete counter to all the other teams, Nightsisters, Rebels, Jedi, they all fall to Palpa.

Apparently the only counter to Palpa is Rex with Wampa + a bunch of legendaries which for new players like you and me it's obviously not feasible, best advice is to literally join the dark side and go palpa as well..

He's viable at 5* easy.

You're always chasing the carrot in this game. When/if you catch the carrot, a better carrot shows up. Once in a while you get lucky and find you already had the carrot, but that's rare.

The most important part is to decide which carrot you want and only chase that one; you get nowhere chasing them all.

Phoenix Squadron (PS) got hit pretty hard by the recent Palpenvader rework. Still a highly valuable starter squad though. Your decision now is to choose a new carrot. Chase the new Sith meta or find a faction that has the potential to become the next big thing. Maybe just pick one you like for fun.

What do you think will be the counter to the new Sith and New Rey squads? Whatever it is, there will be some reworked old heroes plus some new characters involved.

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"CoastalJames;c-1494442" wrote:
Said it before- Phoenix are pretty darn good in every aspect of the game except Arena.

This!

If Penix were any good in Squad Arena, then everybody would just need to farm Penix and be done with the game. The meta must always change to force people to increase their collection. Or else it won't be Galaxy of Heroes anymore, just Galaxy of Penix.

In order to be competitive in arena, you need mods with speed. How much additional speed per character will depend on how old your arena shard is. I’d look at the top players and see how much speed their characters have to get an idea of what you should be going for. Eventually, you’ll want mods to add over 100 speed to everybody on your arena team.

It’s also important to recognize that there are team counters in the game by design. Palpatine/Vader teams are good counters to Phoenix teams. So you can either adapt by changing your team or adapt by farming better (faster) mods, or both.

Server shard determines difficulty, phoenix are a good team, up to your level, but later on they're useless in arena. Time to change your arena team.

July 16 shard here. Not once have I seen a phoenix team in the arena. They just don't hit hard enough. I've seen the same advice, but I think it's aimed at younger shards - they weren't about as older shards levelled up. Ezra is about as good as they get, before you start reaching g12 and putting zetas on, and even then they'll be done over by an equivalent Empire team, for example.

"Hellios;c-1493922" wrote:
Server shard determines difficulty, phoenix are a good team, up to your level, but later on they're useless in arena. Time to change your arena team.

This. Phoenix are a great starter team and will get you a lot of legendary characters. Until then, start building up toons that are useful in a lot of places as well as arena. Rex is a GREAT farm and easy to gear. Raid Han (if you are in a Rancor guild) is fantastic as well. I should note that both of these characters can plug and play in most squads, and also counter the Sith/Palp teams

I'm still pretty new to all this difficult words, I don't even know what META or ZETA means.
My gear lvl is mostly IX, just recently moved to a new guild wo should provide me with better/more gear.
My mods are all health, due to not having other great teams for the mod challenges.
I do have another team under way with 7* Kylo Ren, Boba and Tarkin, 5* Vader (2 more shards for 6*), Palpatine and Thrawn.
Would this be a better guess for the arena?